Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Terrax can't kill Thor with a well placed axe strike. He'd be extremely lucky to score a knock out. I mean really.The team should beat a regular everyday Thor for a majority.
Terrax's axe can kill herald-levellers with a single blow -- this was shown by Rulk, and also when Terrax cut Rondau in half. Also, it was stated that a blow from the axe to Surfer's head would kill him.
Originally posted by zopzop
But in the Loki "fight", Loki was visiting Apoc in his lair when things got ugly and Apoc still resorted to using his machines to cage Loki. Loki broke free and said he was bored of the whole situation and blew up Apoc's screen. What would have happened to Apoc if they weren't fighting in his lair and he couldn't use it's tech?Vs HE, the HE wasn't even interested in fighting. It was Apoc that just kept pushing the issue. It was a minor scuffle at best.
I'll give you the Ikaris fight, I completely forgot about that. That was a good showing while Ikaris was the Prime Eternal too right?
The X-men fight was meh. Iceman, Beast, Colossus, Archangel, and Quicksilver are meh. yucky
This sounds a lot like "But what have the Romans ever done for us?" Aside from tooling Ikaris, having a very impressive fight against HE, destroying the x-men while on death's door, no-selling a full-strength attack from stryfe, matching Loki in combat, humiliating Exodus, and restraining hulk, what has Apocalypse ever done in combat? Even if you aren't impressed with Apocalypse's damage output, his resistance to conventional attacks means that it would take Thor a good long fight to put him down even in a solo fight.
apocalypse was in dire straights so it's fair, but more importantly it shows that he can easily kick the gold team around (half of the x-team at the time) while dying....the x-men being his main reasons for not getting what he wants.
the writers just have him not win, even when he can casually (age of apocalypse is proof that it happened somewhere/time else at least)
Originally posted by Simbon
This sounds a lot like "But what have the Romans ever done for us?"
Not really. He used his tech in his lair vs Loki and even then Loki got out and ended the fight because he was bored with it. Against the HE, the HE didn't even want to fight, it was Apoc that was pressing the issue. He did nothing to the HE except TP him to watch some cave dwellers revolt or something. Nothing of consequence happened during that fight.
I'll give him the Ikaris fight, that was impressive especially if Ikaris was the Prime Eternal at the time.
Meh to the X-Men fight.
I need to see the Stryfe, Hulk and Exodus incidents to see what was going down so I can't comment on them.
Apocalypse had just been restored to full power after having been earlier attacked in his rejuvenation chamber by Stryfe and Bishop while he was at his weakest, and it took everything both of them had, going all out, to take Apocalypse down, but they couldn't kill him. Archangel helped Apocalypse get his full power back and he no sell'd the assault as seen above. Not an amp, just at full power. And Stryfe wasn't' weakened. He pretty much had X Force dead to rights when Apocalypse showed up with Archangel and put Stryfe down.
^ that
Originally posted by zopzopapocalypse abducted hulk to transform him into his latest war (and to test if his theory was correct about surpassing them). prior to the transformation hulk was struggling and apocalypse had to choke a bytch.
Any info on the Exodus and Hulk incidents, were they weakened or Apoc amped? You don't have to post scans, I'll take your word for it.
Context for this scan?
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii265/scanscans/exodusorigin13kw0.jpg
Did he really own Exodus that easily? I mean this guy stood up to Sersi.
It's no joke, btw. Apocalypse altered Exodus and amplified his latent mental powers to the level he's currently at to use him as a subordinate. Those amps still leave Exodus <<<<<Apocalypse. Same goes for Living Monolith, who is a big threat in his own right, but <<<<<<<Apocalypse. Apocalypse doesn't lose because he's weak, he loses because he's in the X-Men's Rogues Gallery and good always wins. I mean, Apocalypse is the same cat that waded through an all out assault from the Inhumans and X-Factor simultaneously.
Originally posted by zopzop
Context for this scan?
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii265/scanscans/exodusorigin13kw0.jpg
Did he really own Exodus that easily? I mean this guy stood up to Sersi.
That is Exodus before he got depowered and imprisoned, even more powerful than in Bloodties.
It is worth noting that Apoc was severely messed up by Cyclops using a plot device on the moon (his only defeat at full power) and hasn`t realy been himself after. Having to rely on host bodied and such. I hope to see him return to his real power levels.
As for the gauntlet, they make it to Surfer & supes. They take out supes before going down.
Originally posted by Simbon
Terrax's axe can kill herald-levellers with a single blow -- this was shown by Rulk, and also when Terrax cut Rondau in half. Also, it was stated that a blow from the axe to Surfer's head would kill him.
Maybe if he had an Executioner type position. Rulk by that point was far more powerful than Terrax from what I remember.
I highly doubt that would happen based on Surfer's fight with Morg alone and I have no idea who Rondau is. Not that any of this matters.
I personally guarantee you if they ever battle, Terrax won't kill Thor with one placed hit. Or Superman and Surfer. If Blood Axe and Perrikus couldn't do it -each are at least as powerful as Terrax- I doubt he could.
