Originally posted by cdtm
Pretty sure hitting like a cl 100 doesn't make you a cl 100.Otherwise, Val Armorr would be considering that, and he's just a human level guy who uses space karate to hit outside his class.
Also, Val Armorr for another pick.
Idk what you misunderstood. But I don't care what level Danny amps to, as long as it's not pass class 10. 😮💨
Both would be hard pressed to win either way tbh. But these are the stipulations of the thread.
Originally posted by Marvelknight
Idk what you misunderstood.
I'm saying, prove Danny amps his strength past cl 10, and not just amp his striking power.
Val Armorr can hit like a class 100 brick, but he can't lift 100 tons. No way, no how. So Val doesn't qualify as as cl 100, or even a cl 50.
I like Danny Rand, but don't know everything about him, so I'm assuming when he chi amps, he can hit like, say, Luke Cage, but still not be able to lift nearly as much weight.
Originally posted by cdtm
I'm saying, prove Danny amps his strength past cl 10, and not just amp his striking power.Val Armorr can hit like a class 100 brick, but he can't lift 100 tons. No way, no how. So Val doesn't qualify as as cl 100, or even a cl 50.
I like Danny Rand, but don't know everything about him, so I'm assuming when he chi amps, he can hit like, say, Luke Cage, but still not be able to lift nearly as much weight.
Nothing for me to prove. Understand that I'm saying use IF if you want. But he can't amp himself to levels in striking power above class 10. Otherwise, why not let other characters be used who are above class 10 in strength? Understand?
Originally posted by Marvelknight
Nothing for me to prove. Understand that I'm saying use IF if you want. But he can't amp himself to levels in striking power above class 10. Otherwise, why not let other characters be used who are above class 10 in strength? Understand?
So you're banning Val Armorr from the fight? And Marvels Mantis, too?
They can both hit like a cl 100, but can't life weight like a cl 100.
You understand you banned > cl 10's. You didn't say anything about banning anyone who can HIT harder than anyone past a cl 10.
Striking like a cl 15 and being a cl 15 are two different things.
Originally posted by cdtm
So you're banning Val Armorr from the fight? And Marvels Mantis, too?They can both hit like a cl 100, but can't life weight like a cl 100.
You understand you banned > cl 10's. You didn't say anything about banning anyone who can HIT harder than anyone past a cl 10.
Striking like a cl 15 and being a cl 15 are two different things.
What?
What are you talking about.? This isn't a weight lifting contest. It's doesn't matter if Danny' lifting strength isn't comparable to striking.
Because if this was someone like Venom; he'd have to strike Wolverine same as anyone else. How else would their strength be used in a fight, which requires hitting the each other i.e. striking?
Class 10 isn't banded, but anything higher is (strength, durability and striking power). You don't have to actually be above class 10 in lifting power. But if you can amp your fists to hit with higher force above class 10. That would go against the stips.
Originally posted by Marvelknight
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Because if this was someone like Venom; he'd have to strike Wolverine same as anyone else. How else would their strength be used in a fight, which requires hitting the each other i.e. striking?
Striking doesn't = lifting power, though. When we talk about strength class, we're talking lifting power. That's what the system measures. Even in real life, there's a difference between lifting power and striking power.. A person that can lift 100 lbs can hit harder than someone that can lift 200 lbs, through technique.
In comics, it's a lot worse.. Captain America can only lift one ton, but he can KO characters that can lift much, much more.
Bottom line, unless you're changing the rules, you banned anyone above cl 10, which means anyone that can lift above 10 tons.
Can Danny lift more than 10 tons with amping? Is there scans or proof of this? If he knocks Colossus across the room, does that make him cl 100? Or is he still cl 10, but his technique and chi let him hit beyond his class?
I know he can amp his strength, but I'm not aware of any lifting feats above cl 10, even if he can hit harder than, say, Luke Cage, who is clearly above cl 10. And trying to ban anyone that can hit harder than a cl 10 would be difficult, since there's plenty of characters that hit beyond their strength class, and it's a difficult thing to measure..
From a Canadian's perspective I think Logan would feel way more comfortable in a typical woods environment then a Jungle environment. My grandfather had to spend a couple years in Jamaica during the Second World War just to get the hang of jungle combat. Blah, nothing to do with comics just my two cents.
Originally posted by Marvelknight
There's nothing to discus, because the stips are clear. IF can only amp to a certain degree.
Originally posted by Marvelknight
Anyone above class 10, with telepathy, intangibility, mist form, flight or mirrored power-set as Logan, can't be used.However, all other contestants will have 24 hours of prep, including Wolverine himself.
The fight takes place in a Jungle that has wildlife; tigers, black panthers, anacondas and other large cats and animals; at night.
So.. Who could take down Logan here?
Note: No teams.
Anyone above class 10 refers to just strength on this board. And you did not in your OP (opening post) identify any stipulations against people who have the striking power or similar to it
Cdtm is right. You are wrong. Plain and simple. However you can in a tread later CLARIFY that you mean anyone that was class 10 in strength but also anyone that has striking feats that could match.
You have said... The opening thread is clear about what class 10 means... Which is false. I wouldn't smoke a cig like you've owned someone when your grammar and writing isnt clear. That you actually have multiple responses trying to clarify what you wrote should show you you made a mistake.