Who can take Wolverine in Jungle warfare?

Originally posted by Marvelknight
I'm pretty sure others are looking at your comments, wondering why you can't get it.

You can't make me look bad, and I'm not wrong either...

Now I'll end this here. So far you're catching on. Now pay a attention...

"Being a class ten"

"Amping to class ten"

"And striking with the force of a class ten"

It's doesn't matter. As long as it's not above class 10 all of the above is fine.. Now, now, was that too hard to understand?

Nope. Define striking with the force of a class ten now.

I love that you completely ignore my comment about the IMP. how's how much you know. ;-)

Originally posted by rotiart
Nope. Define striking with the force of a class ten now.

Spider-Man has class 10 strength; he hits a wall and destroys it with ten tons of force behind his blows.

Iron Fist has peak human strength; he amps his physical strength to strike a wall and destroy it with the ten tons of force behind his blows.

Different methods, same results i.e. no difference in striking power, only one had to amp to meet the same level in striking power while the other didn't.

Now. Idk what point you're trying to prove, it remains to be seen. But this is truly a wast of time when we both could be thinking of opponents to take on Wolverine.

Bottom line.

Originally posted by Marvelknight
"Being a class ten"

"Amping to class ten"

"And striking with the force of a class ten"

It's doesn't matter. As long as it's not above class 10 all of the above is fine...

Originally posted by StyleTime
Do the contestants have to track Wolverine down and subdue him?

Can they wait on Wolverine to come to them or even just wait for Wolverine to die or somesuch?

I assume they will try to track him down. Waiting isn't really a good idea for anyone going against Logan here. Best bet is to stay on the move or try to lure Wolverine out.

So captain America is out then by your rulings correct?

Originally posted by rotiart
So captain America is out then by your rulings correct?

Yeah, since Cap can hang with and beat US Agent, who's a class 15...

Originally posted by rotiart
So captain America is out then by your rulings correct?

Cap can increase his physical stats pass class 10 now? Or are you comparing chi amping to a weapon. Wolverine's bones are nearly as hard as Cap's shield. So I guest Wolverine can't be in a thread starring him either.

Originally posted by Marvelknight
Different methods, same results i.e. no difference in striking power, only one had to amp to meet the same level in striking power while the other didn't.

Now. Idk what point you're trying to prove, it remains to be seen.

Captain America throwing his shield with enough force to take down a fighter plane. Stop a semi truck.
Black panther arm bar of silver surfer.
Gamora Vs thanos
Gamora Vs drax.

Etc etc....

If you want the list I'll do as many off the top I can. But claiming that martial arts is the same as a lifting feat shows you don't understan the difference.

And again I said striking power. Not Amping power. You still don't know the difference.

What is this, Iron Fist is the comic character of the month on KMC?

Tbh. If I make an exception and let IF amp his fists as powerful as he wants, what difference will it make? None...

Wolverine still takes it over him here 7/8-10 😮‍💨

Originally posted by rotiart
Captain America throwing his shield with enough force to take down a fighter plane. Stop a semi truck.
Black panther arm bar of silver surfer.
Gamora Vs thanos
Gamora Vs drax.

Etc etc....

If you want the list I'll do as many off the top I can. But claiming that martial arts is the same as a lifting feat shows you don't understan the difference.

And again I said striking power. Not Amping power. You still don't know the difference.

IF can't deliver that kind of striking power without amping. Class 10 striking power without amping? Yeah ok....

Originally posted by Marvelknight
What is this, Iron Fist is the comic character of the month on KMC?

Tbh. If I make an exception and let IF amp his fists as powerful as he wants, what difference will it make? None...

Wolverine still takes it over him here 7/8-10 😮‍💨

You are more full of fail then I thought!!

The person mentioning iron fist had been you. Not me.
All I stated was your argument against fighters who have feats that show they can strike with force of a class ten was dumb. Obviously all those little pics are you smoking weed. Explains why you don't understand what I've been saying. And that you've been confusing your own posts with those of others.

Sigh. Let me put this in a way you will understand 30 years from now when you are hard at work. Yes I would like fries with that.

Mike Tyson... A fighter with a bench weight of something like 350 lbs has a striking measurement rated around 1500 pounds....

Lifting does NOT equal striking.

Although on a tangent... boxers who are still standing but actually knocked out is some awesome stuff.

Originally posted by rotiart
You are more full of fail then I thought!!

The person mentioning iron fist had been you. Not me.
All I stated was your argument against fighters who have feats that show they can strike with force of a class ten was dumb. Obviously all those little pics are you smoking weed. Explains why you don't understand what I've been saying. And that you've been confusing your own posts with those of others.

Sigh. Let me put this in a way you will understand 30 years from now when you are hard at work. Yes I would like fries with that.

Wrong I never brought up IF. Someone else did. I only stated that " if we use IF he can't amp pass class 10". Then you and cdtm try and tell me about the rules of my own thread and what they means. That in itself is stupid... Notice you two are the only ones who are still pushing this. Everyone else gets it.

Crying because IF can't amp pass class 10. Get over it and move on.

Lol. You are really not that bright are you? You mentioned IF several times then complained about the if love here...

Actually as far as your "rules" go. I was pointing out it wasn't in your op. Since you felt it necessary to insult Cdtm and insist it was. Then youjust started making up lies so I pointed them out.

Don't be mad at me that the public school system failed you.

Originally posted by Marvelknight
There's nothing to discus, because the stips are clear. IF can only amp to a certain degree.

You do realize the argument hasn't been about amping at all... but about equivalent striking force. you don't have to be able to lift or amp to lift 10 ton to inflict striking damage of that size....

Originally posted by rotiart
Lol. You are really not that bright are you? You mentioned IF several times then complained about the if love here...

Tell that to yourself.

Originally posted by cdtm
Captain Cold.

Danny Rand.

Originally posted by Marvelknight
If we use IF, he can't amp pass class 10 in striking power, strength or durability. Which lower his chances even more, since this is Logan' playground after all.

Originally posted by cdtm
Pretty sure hitting like a cl 100 doesn't make you a cl 100.

Otherwise, Val Armorr would be considering that, and he's just a human level guy who uses space karate to hit outside his class.

Also, Val Armorr for another pick.

Originally posted by Marvelknight
Idk what you misunderstood. But I don't care what level Danny amps to, as long as it's not pass class 10. 😮‍💨

Both would be hard pressed to win either way tbh. But these are the stipulations of the thread.

And it goes on and on...

And there's nothing wrong with my intelligence. This thread is not about the difference between striking power and lifting strength. Can you read? The thread is about "Who can take Wolverine in Jungle warfare?"

You wanna prove something to me, make a name for yourself and show me up? Well it isn't happening, not here, son...

Debate IF out of getting his kicked and focus on the topic of the thread and stop wasting my time with semantics.

Originally posted by rotiart
You do realize the argument hasn't been about amping at all... but about equivalent striking force. you don't have to be able to lift or amp to lift 10 ton to inflict striking damage of that size....

Bullshit... Unless it's pressure-point striking, hell no Danny can't deliver damage of that size without amping.

So Danny can hit as hard as Spider-Man without amping or cause the same damage? No

Originally posted by Marvelknight
Bullshit... Unless it's pressure-point striking, hell no Danny can't deliver damage of that size without amping.

So Danny can hit as hard as Spider-Man without amping or cause the same damage? No

I don't bring up Iron Fist. You do. If you have a fetish for Danny Rand thats your business. If you you like mixing it up with Bullshit while you are at it.. .. dude.. whatever you do in the bedroom.. thats between you and god.

Again. the question is. what the heck is your definition of striking with 10 tons of force. Someone like cap hurting a brick that has SHOWN before that he isn't hurt by other people? ie... silver surfer not being hurt by she-hulk, but showing pain to say.... black panther?! hrmmmmm.... and i didn't say pressure points. you are.

how about someone like mr hyde that tangles with the hulk... and cap getting the best of him...

or hell cap hurting people like the wrecking crew...

DO you or do you not admit captain america is below a class ten.

and i don't have to make a name for myself off you. You don't have a name here. lol.

keep up your silly little deflections and lies. I see right through you. 😮‍💨

Originally posted by Marvelknight
I assume they will try to track him down. Waiting isn't really a good idea for anyone going against Logan here. Best bet is to stay on the move or try to lure Wolverine out.

Mercury is a great example. Wolverine can't really do anything to her physically, but she has no hope of tracking Wolverine down.

Dust is technically tangible, so she's another one with good powers but no tracking ability.

Kiden Nixon has no real tracking skills either, but she may not need them when she enters "No Time". Wolverine wouldn't really be able to do anything to Kiden, and she'd cover a whole lot of distance relative to him. She'd probably run across him eventually.

Cyclops and Havok could do it if they are willing to level the forest section by section. They'd have to keep a clear plane around them at all times though.