Originally posted by Digi
So if God isn't needed for the creation of the universe, how is it more logical to suppose that an infinitely complex being just happens to exist?
What has that got to do with anything I said?
Originally posted by Digi
You're also talking about a God that just made everything and hasn't intervened since then.
Don't remember saying that.
Originally posted by Digi
If someone wants to believe in that sort of God, fine, I can't actually refute it other than to say there's no evidence for it. But such a God leaves us no reason to believe in him, nor would require belief since he's clearly not intervening in a way that suggests he wants us to believe in him.
Whatever.
Originally posted by Digi
Anyway, the conversation I was having was with a person who was refuting the idea that science can sufficiently explain existence. That's the argument these comments are directed toward, and especially when he states something like "God is the simpler explanation of the universe's existence," (paraphrased) Occam's razor is very applicable to such a claim.
He might actually be right but it's a matter of perpective.
Originally posted by DigiMaybe your idea of God. The vast, vast majority of peoples' ideas of God aren't, and that's what we've been talking about. God, in and of itself, isn't necessarily incompatible with science (though it would still require one hell of an explanation).
Complete nonsense. Obvoulsy the idea of a sentient infinite being existing within an infinite universe is illogical. Beings that can manipulate time and space are incompatible with science.
Also I’m not even sure if my idea of God or a god is different from anybody elses. Considering that belief in jinns and angels are an important belief in sunni islam I think you’re wrong. Hope I’m not going to have to elaborate.
Originally posted by DigiThe Gods of pretty much every world religion, however, are. When we talk about God, that's usually what we mean.
No their not. A god or God is just vastly more powerful than us and in the case of god is infinite....oh he also has to be white and have a beard. If he doesn’t have a beard then it’s not god.
Originally posted by DigiIt's not even worth talking about a God who may exist but has no direct contact with the universe. Such a God would have no bearing on our beliefs, lives, etc. because of a complete lack of interaction or doctrine.
Strawman i think, even if it decided not to communicate not even necessarily an important point. It just seems your obessesed with a fundemantalist Christian viewpoint of God and keep using this as proof that religion is illogical and incompatible with science. It's like trying to argue that humans suck as a species and constantly using football hooligans as representatives of the human race just because you got beaten up by them as kid. I’m really sorry if Christians treated you badly but you really need to get over it.