Galactus Vs The Council Of Skyfathers

Originally posted by Eternal Idol
It's called jobbing.

I was under the impression that Jobbing can be sometimes categorized as PIS showings were a less powerful character is able to beat a more powerful character for no apparent reason whatsoever.Batman beating Superman with Kryptonite isn't technically PIS but it falls under the CIS description.Since people will just say "Batman had Kryptonite" when he beat Superman.Now here are 2 examples of showing in comics that can be categorized as Jobbing/PIS.

1.Thing knocking out Silver Surfer.
2.Squirrel Girl beating Thanos.

I mean these showings has no explanation whatsoever on how Thing and Squirrel Girl beat Characters that are more powerful than them.I mean this showings are really screaming for a retcon if you ask me.And its good thing they were retconned.As for the Galactus/Odin fight, I just analyzed Big G's history on why he is sometimes seen struggling with characters like Mephisto but he is able to do well against his cancerverse counterpart that made Celestials ran away.I mean Celestials made skyfathers look bad.There is no way I'm going to believe Mephisto is in Celestial level.I mean this Mephisto whom Odin prevented from gaining Jake Olsen's soul with no problems whatsoever.Mephisto who is struggling against Satannish.Satannish created by Dormammu(equal to Zeus and Odin).So the only explanation I can come up with big G is that maybe magic is a weakness to him since he is portrayed struggling with magical beings(Mephisto,Odin and etc) while he is portrayed doing well against cosmical beings(Galactus Engine,T & A and etc).

The scan on the first page - it's from which issue? Is it from the current Mighty Thor series or something?

Originally posted by Utrigita

Odin hasn't been shown to enter the Destroyer while being in the Odinsleep before, atleast not to my knowledge so... I for one would like to think that Thor, given his centuries of knowledge actually can tell if it's the Odin sleep or a Coma.

Originally posted by Power Cosmic II
The stupidity here is you citing the writer's failure to play out scenarios other than what he intended in a pathetic attempt to undermine my points.

Fraction wanted to depict a TP battle. The fact that Fraction wants the battle to open with Odin initiating a TP assault while Galactus is written to be passive/reactive, which is explicitly contrary to his portrayals in battles (i.e., not in his character to be passive/reactive when he is fighting another character), is in no way indicative of how it would go in a forum fight, can you not comprehend that? Clearly not

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Right because if Galactus didn't want to battle TP he would blast Odin. Ya like Odin can't counter and unleash is on galaxy level attack also. Odin has feats of power to match Galactus. We have a direct conflict now that supports this. Odin starting of with a tp attack, energy blast of H2H odin can hold his on.

Headbutt 2 headbutt both sides were stunned

Tp 2 tp both were pushing each other.

Energy attacks Odin has feats right up there with Galactus

Know you thorugh in Seth and Zeus to tip the tide hell if the rest of the skyfather are only on the high herald range Galactus would go down just base on Odin/ Thor's double team.

Originally posted by DarkOdin
Actually the last time Odin enter the enter the destroyer with all the other asgardians Thor didn't know what was happening. Either way IF Odin exits the destroyer and wakes ti it will be clear if it is the odin sleep or not. Also it takes quite awhile to enter the destoryer with a soul as loki states and is shown in the king Thor story line.

But Odin wasn't going into something resembling the Odin sleep at that point of time was he? Thor here obviously state that it's the Odin Sleep so he has a idea on what is happening to Odin this time around. And here it happened pretty quickly and while Odin was still conscious (something I don't believe is possible either)

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
That's a fair point but normally when Galactus is weakened or hungry it's made pretty clear, no? From what I know of Pak and how I've seen Galactus handled, I personally doubt that the World Eater was intended to be weakened. If for no reason other than he likes Zeus and isn't to keen on Galactus in comparison. We won't know for certain one way or the other unless Pak makes a comment.

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Not exactly. Galactus said "No mere Skyfather can so easily shrug off my power."

That has very different implications. Possibly but Ares was referring to Zeus' true power.

Not sure what you mean here.

I think it was made pretty clear, Surfer was actually quite furious at Hercules for having moved Galactus. It would seem to me atleast a rather strange line of logic from Pak's side then. Normally when Galactus is hungry or about to fed he is in some way weakened (hence why he fed) but maybe Pak thinks that it has no overall effect on Galactus powerlevel at what level of hunger (and I agree it can flucturate to a great degree) he operates on, but that would just be absurd.

Potato Potato, same same but different. Galactus pretty obviously didn't intend Zeus to rise from that Blast ("return to your deaths"😉, but again that also (if we are to focus on that route) makes Pak's intention quite clear, atleast imo. Well as I read it, it can still be refering to what Zeus held within him, thus with the Chaos King working through Zeus it would still be seen as Zeus power.

Yeah should have been big instead of being. Well my point was that while the powergap between Odin and Galactus is being explored, I don't think that the conflict in itself is going to shed much light on Galactus powerlevel in comparison say a Skrull Skyfather or something similar, because (atleast imo) Odin isn't the base for all skyfather (just like Arishem isn't the base for all Celestials)

Originally posted by Utrigita
But Odin wasn't going into something resembling the Odin sleep at that point of time was he? Thor here obviously state that it's the Odin Sleep so he has a idea on what is happening to Odin this time around. And here it happened pretty quickly and while Odin was still conscious (something I don't believe is possible either)