Dead or Alive 5

Never! uhuh

I'm curious about the stage interaction. Hayashi(iirc) said stages will basically be another combatant in the fight. Stage interaction has long been a defining trait of DOA and I think it'd be interesting if they do this properly. I'd like less of a random factor in the stages though. Having the cheetah interrupt your juggle in 4 was just annoying.

Agreed about the stages interaction. I have no idea about what they can do to them though. They need to get rid of random elements like that cheetah or the cars.

But.. that's part of what makes Dead or Alive unique. D: I know removing them would bring more balance competitive-wise, but still.

Meh...random cheetahs and cars are annoying to be honest.

They can be, but are also fun if you manage to use 'em to your advantage. And yeah, would probably be for the best for those features to go, though I'd miss 'em some.

As long as they have an option where you can turn the random environment events off, I could deal with it.

Originally posted by StyleTime
I brought up SCV to refute the "early=stagnation" claim. There is still no contradiction.

I said it doesn't flow. It just simply doesn't mix. You didn't expect changes at this point, yet you tried to make it seem like there was no reason to not have changes? If you really didn't expect any changes, then there was no point in doing that.

Originally posted by StyleTime
Yes. Yes, it means exactly that. If something looks like something else, we can point it out. You introduced "expectations" into this and projected it onto us.[B]

You said "the trailer didn't really show us much gameplay wise", in response to this:

Originally posted by Zack Fair
[B]But being serious...I think it will bomb without Itagaki. Or it will just remain the same without any real changes.

Zack was talking about the game itself and YOU brought up the trailer not showing much. That's why I said "it's too early to be expecting changes at this point".

Originally posted by StyleTime
Cool. If you don't consider shortcomings a big deal, you shouldn't make such....a big deal about it. The fact that they exist is reason to highlight them in a thread about the game for those of us so inclined. Can we finally drop this?

But you never seem to consider WHY those "shortcomings" exist and even tried to refute that by using another game. All I basically did was mention why there's hardly anything shown in the trailer and you're the one who made a big deal out of it, not me. You said you felt it was lacking but then again, it's the "pre-alpha stages", dude.

Originally posted by StyleTime
I guess I keep getting pulled in because it seems like such a simple concept to me. If BroSmash doesn't want to talk about shortcomings, he doesn't have to participate. He should have left it at "Well, I'll wait for more information before I jump onboard with you guys." Noone has a problem with that. Instead, he says "You guys have no right to discuss this in a discussion about the game."

So telling you it's too early to expect something that's in the pre-alpha stages is the same as saying "you have no right to discuss it"? 🤨 What kind of mess is that?

I don't tolerate lies.

Can you just drop it?

Originally posted by Zack Fair
Can you just drop it?

You mean you couldn't ask Style the same question?

I asked both of you to drop it.

I have nothing against you. I just want that stupid discussion out of this thread. Take it to PMs.

Well I'd rather end it on a much better note than people claiming "I'm trying to stop a discussion" which is a lie. I mean, it's not fair when people see other people's points, yet completely misinterpret mines.

Well, you really can't change other people's beliefs, so you're kind of wasting your time.

If you want people to really think you're not trolling, maybe you should just listen to them and drop it.

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
Well, you really can't change other people's beliefs, so you're kind of wasting your time.

If that means they're being stubborn, then yes, I would be but I still don't approve of people lying. I'm not afraid to speak up for myself. Remember that.

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
If you want people to really think you're not trolling, maybe you should just listen to them and drop it.

So I should listen to them but they shouldn't listen to me, huh?

Having a long discussion doesn't mean it's trolling.

No one really cares. As far as the people in here are concerned you're being kind of annoying. Arguing with those people aren't going to make you look less annoying.

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
No one really cares. As far as the people in here are concerned you're being kind of annoying. Arguing with those people aren't going to make you look less annoying.

I'm annoying for posting just like everybody else under here? How is that right? People post, make their points, have discussions and everything, but that's okay. I do the same thing and it's "annoying"? Everybody is doing the same thing, yet only one person is "annoying". That's some bullcrap!

I also notice you've been quite negative under here towards me most of the time. You don't think that's annoying?

I'm sure it's annoying to you. But, unlike yourself, I don't feel the need to end the discussion on some "lighter note". If you think I'm annoying because of the content of my posts, so be it.

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
I'm sure it's annoying to you. But, unlike yourself, I don't feel the need to end the discussion on some "lighter note". If you think I'm annoying because of the content of my posts, so be it.

Or rather, you could quit taking sides.

I agree with everything Styletime's said and disagree with everything you said, and I find your self-victimizing ways to be irritating. Why would I not take sides.

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
I agree with everything Styletime's said and disagree with everything you said, and I find your self-victimizing ways to be irritating. Why would I not take sides.

Because you're not making things better yourself. You're just going with everything he said, even when it's obviously false.

Doing that, as well as antagonizing me, also gives off the impression that you hold a grudge against me, which wouldn't be a surprise at all (why else would you go with EVERY single thing he says?). It's not self-victimizing. There's just no reason for people to treat me so differently from others under here.

If everyone around you says you have dog shit on your jeans, maybe you should take a look at your jeans, instead of calling everyone else crazy.