Originally posted by Bro SMASH
That would make sense if you actually had someting to critique, in which you don't.So are you saying that they can?
I'm saying it's irrelevant.
Originally posted by StyleTime
You're factually wrong here. The trailer exists. Their product can be critiqued. Your personal decision to refrain from the critique has no bearing on that fact.
You literally got nothing to critique. All you got is a video of an unfinished game in development that barely shows anything. You haven't played the game and I doubt you know anybody who has.
Or are you trying to say that the developers are lazy for showing a trailer of a game they clearly showed was unfinished?
Originally posted by StyleTime
I'm saying it's irrelevant.
No, it is relevant. You're saying "early=/=no changes", basically saying it should show you more stuff, no matter how early it is in development. The reality is that it takes time for that but you ignore that fact. So I'm just asking, are you saying people can make games instantly?
Originally posted by Zack Fair
You guys should make a battlezone and get it over with.
Hey, it's a discussion about the game, right?
Originally posted by Bro SMASH
You literally got nothing to critique. All you got is a video of an unfinished game in development that barely shows anything. You haven't played the game and I doubt you know anybody who has.
Or are you trying to say that the developers are lazy for showing a trailer of a game they clearly showed was unfinished?No, it is relevant. You're saying it should show you a lot of stuff, no matter how early it is in development. The reality is that it takes time for that but you ignore that fact. So I'm just asking, are you saying it's possible to make a game instantly?
Nothing you said refutes the fact that it's irrelevant. I never said it should show us a "lot of stuff" btw.
Originally posted by Zack Fair
You guys should make a battlezone and get it over with.
Originally posted by StyleTime
Again, here are the facts. There is a trailer. I can critique the contents therein.
Umm...no. That's not what you're doing.
Originally posted by StyleTime
Nothing you said refutes the fact that it's irrelevant. I never said it should show us a "lot of stuff."
You basically did. Remember, you said "early=/=no changes" and the fact there wasn't any changes means that it's a flaw. In otherwords, there should have been more things to show.
Originally posted by Bro SMASH
But that's not what you're doing.You basically did. Remember, you said "early=/=no changes" and the fact there wasn't any changes means that it's a flaw. In otherwords, there should have been more things to show.
Ok. Maybe it was a misunderstanding. Let me clarify. While "early=/=no changes" is true, it's not the "lack of things" that I consider the flaw. I simply pointed out that it didn't show us much. The fact that the game looks too much like DOA4 is the flaw I take issue with. If that doesn't bother you, cool. It bothers me.
Can we wrap this up now?
Originally posted by StyleTime
That's what I was doing before we got caught up on this pages long funny business.
Just go to my next part on this post.
Originally posted by StyleTime
Ok. Maybe it was a misunderstanding. Let me clarify. While "early=/=no changes" is true, it's not the "lack of things" that I consider the flaw. I simply pointed out that it didn't show us much. The fact the game looks too much like DOA4 is the flaw I take issue with. If that doesn't bother you, cool. It bothers me.Can we wrap this up now?
"Early=/=no changes" is not true.
Wait, it "looks" too much like DOA4? That's still not a good reason. You gotta keep in mind that this is the pre-alpha stages of the game. That kind of stage, in which all we can do is see it, isn't gonna show us everything to come in the future. So that's still not a flaw. That's what I'm telling you. No matter what, it still falls into the same reasoning; it's still in the pre-alpha stages.
I can wrap this up if we both can understand each other.
Look, all I'm saying is wait. At this point, we got nothing to go on. Wait till' it evolved beyond it's current stages, then we can come up with something for it.
Originally posted by Bro SMASH
"Early=/=no changes" is not true.Wait, it "[b]looks
" too much like DOA4? That's still not a good reason. You gotta keep in mind that this is the pre-alpha stages of the game. That kind of stage, in which all we can do is see it, isn't gonna show us everything to come in the future. So that's still not a flaw. That's what I'm telling you. No matter what, it still falls into the same reasoning; it's still in the pre-alpha stages.I can wrap this up if we both can understand each other. [/B]
When I said looks, I meant the looks of the gameplay. If I find fault with that, then it is a flaw. The fact that it can change does not matter. A broken arm can heal, but it is still broken before then. This is simple.
You don't seem to understand me yet. I seriously thought this was nearing its end.
Originally posted by NemeBro
I have been fapping so hard to the posts in this thread.I thought you all should know.
I can't see the image.
For those of you still with us, here is some information from Hayashi about the revamped stage interaction in DOA5.
"So in the past [Dead or Alive] games," Hayashi said, "most of the dangers were fixed, set areas on the stage that you can knock your opponent into -- and they were just set there, the stage didn't change a whole lot. If you watch the video from our press event, you can see the entire stage changing and taking a different shape, and all sorts of chaos happening." You'll be able to trigger changes to the "geometry" of stages in addition to moving up, down, and through them.
Originally posted by StyleTime
Yes, it is. DOA5 could have been about a salamander from day 1. There you go. Early change.
Except in this case, we're talking about a game changing on an EXISTING engine so that's not the same thing.
You need to understand what kind of changes I'm talking about. What you're saying is: making something completely unrelated and slapping another title on it=change.
But that's not true because that's like saying Doki Doki Panic/Super Mario Bros. 2 "changed" from Super Mario Bros.
Originally posted by StyleTime
When I said looks, I meant the looks of the gameplay. If I find fault with that, then it is a flaw. The fact that it can change does not matter. A broken arm can heal, but it is still broken before then. This is simple.
Yes, you said "looks" of the gameplay, meaning you didn't actually play it. You can't say it's the same if all you did was just look at it while it's still in development.
Originally posted by StyleTime
You don't seem to understand me yet. I seriously thought this was nearing its end.
Look, if you don't wanna listen to me, fine. I was trying to make some sense out of this but it's very difficult and tiresome.
Originally posted by Bro SMASH
Except in this case, we're talking about a game changing on an EXISTING engine so that's not the same thing.You need to understand what kind of changes I'm talking about. What you're saying is: making something completely unrelated and slapping another title on it=change. But that's not true because that's like saying Doki Doki Panic/Super Mario Bros. 2 "changed" from Super Mario Bros.Yes, you said "looks" of the gameplay, meaning you didn't actually play it. You can't say it's the same if all you did was just look at it while it's still in development.
Look, if you don't wanna listen to me, fine. I was trying to make some sense out of this but it's very difficult and tiresome.
Yes, it was an observation. I've said that from the get go.
I have listened to you. You don't think it's cause for concern and that's fine. I do though, and I will continue to discuss it with whoever wants to. You are free to ignore us.
Originally posted by StyleTime
You starting another argument, BroSMASH? uhuh 😛
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Originally posted by StyleTime
I did like the DOA4 soundtrack though. It wasn't the best of the series, but Tekken's doesn't fit to me.And Tekken 6's was mostly just bad.
Yeah, I didn't quite like Tekken 6's either.
I like the DOA3 and 4 soundtracks. Some of those themes are pretty good but they're just too specific for me. You can pretty much match each character with their themes while hardly even knowing them.
Tekken Tag's soundtrack (which I think is the best Tekken soundtrack along with Tekken 3) can match with any game similar to it. You can put them with both DOA and VF and it still seems fitting.
I guess when DOA5 comes out, I'll use the Tekken Tag 2 soundtrack while playing it. 😄
