Originally posted by inimalist
which, by whom?
The findings that state that the universe had a beginning at the Big Bang and came into existence ex nihilo. This is coming from Steven Hawking, Velenkin, Penrose, to name a few. It's basically the current accepted cosmological stance. This very topic was started because the original poster watched a tv program about Steven Hawking talking about how the universe began from nothing.
Well, I'm almost 100% for sure that the God that created the universe would not care even one iota about some species living on a planet about 13.7 billion years after He/She/It created this universe. It is probably the epitome of arrogance for humans to think that such a Creator would care. Here we are thinking that a Being Who's consciousnesses transcends 11 dimensions is some how taking a personal interest in over 20 billion (since the beginning of humans) humans' lives.
However, there's that part of me that hopes in those things. Small part...but it's still there.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Well, I'm almost 100% for sure that the God that created the universe would not care even one iota about some species living on a planet about 13.7 billion years after He/She/It created this universe. It is probably the epitome of arrogance for humans to think that such a Creator would care. Here we are thinking that a Being Who's consciousnesses transcends 11 dimensions is some how taking a personal interest in over 20 billion (since the beginning of humans) humans' lives.However, there's that part of me that hopes in those things. Small part...but it's still there.
But if we think of him as an all-knowing, all-understanding being then it becomes much more likely that he cares.
And maybe rather than thinking of a hypothetical god as a scientist who creates a culture in a pietri dish and can only see it as a collection of microbial bacteria maybe we should instead think of a hypothetical god as a writer, someone who creates a world and lives that world, loves it, cares about it to the tiniest detail.
/ramble 😛
Originally posted by Omega Vision
Well if we think of God as just a really big human or as a human with us as microbes then yeah, it is pretty silly to think that he'd care about us/want to micromanage us.But if we think of him as an all-knowing, all-understanding being then it becomes much more likely that he cares.
And maybe rather than thinking of a hypothetical god as a scientist who creates a culture in a pietri dish and can only see it as a collection of microbial bacteria maybe we should instead think of a hypothetical god as a writer, someone who creates a world and lives that world, loves it, cares about it to the tiniest detail.
/ramble 😛
But would not there be thousands or even millions (or in the case of a multiverse...almost an infinite to infinite) number of other sentient creations of His/Hers/It?
It because much more difficult for such a being to care about a single individual in a drop of the infinite: a single element becomes infinitely small in such a reality.
But, yes, I like the idea of an interactive Creator. At least one that takes an interest in the individual being good...but not to the point of overt interference.
Originally posted by dadudemon
But would not there be thousands or even millions (or in the case of a multiverse...almost an infinite to infinite) number of other sentient creations of His/Hers/It?It because much more difficult for such a being to care about a single individual in a drop of the infinite: a single element becomes infinitely small in such a reality.
But, yes, I like the idea of an interactive Creator. At least one that takes an interest in the individual being good...but not to the point of overt interference.
But I think there's a certain folly in trying to understand how an Infinite Consciousness might work with your finite consciousness.
As someone who gravitates toward Sartre, I think God is usually only a hypothetical discussion piece and not something to be relied on. 😛
Originally posted by Jack Daniels
there is a creator..... who knows what he it is but whats it hurt to say a prayer to the dude that made it all happen better safe than sorry...cause sorry none of u have the answers..but if hes out there he does...Im taking the safe bet
1) you talk as if thats a fact
2) if he really is an all powerful, all knowing god, then he will know your intentions for prayers are bad. If your "praying" just to save your ass, then you might as well not pray at all, you act like your doing something good.
Originally posted by TacDavey
The findings that state that the universe had a beginning at the Big Bang and came into existence ex nihilo. This is coming from Steven Hawking, Velenkin, Penrose, to name a few. It's basically the current accepted cosmological stance. This very topic was started because the original poster watched a tv program about Steven Hawking talking about how the universe began from nothing.
big bang theory came from a catholic priest called lemaitre
it should be called the big bullshit theory
just because it is accepted by scientists does not mean it is law, it is THEORY not LAW
remember when the world thought the earth was flat and at centre of the universe
well now they gone back to believing the earth is centre of universe and some scientists talk about how the universe is FLAT
such a joke scientists of today, same ones who talk Bullshit about dangers of CO2 on future of mankind, yet the solution is not to stop the problem, but instead charge people for the use
****in idiot planet
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
You can't alter that outcome of that sort of thing, its random. At best you can be the cause of an "observation", which basically anything can do.
Enjoy!
Originally posted by dadudemon
Well, I'm almost 100% for sure that the God that created the universe would not care even one iota about some species living on a planet about 13.7 billion years after He/She/It created this universe. It is probably the epitome of arrogance for humans to think that such a Creator would care. Here we are thinking that a Being Who's consciousnesses transcends 11 dimensions is some how taking a personal interest in over 20 billion (since the beginning of humans) humans' lives.However, there's that part of me that hopes in those things. Small part...but it's still there.
But what if we're all "one" stoned
Originally posted by ares834
YouTube videoEnjoy!
Yes, random was the wrong word entirely but there's still nothing privileged about "the mind" in it. Variations of the experiment include mechanical observers.
Re: Did God create the universe??
Originally posted by heru
I just watched a episode of Curiosity on the discovery channel. Stephen Hawkins a cosmologist, was giving his thoughts on God not existing. He based his theory on modern day science. The conclusion that he came up with was that the universe started from nothing. So everything within the universe, even down to our perfect condition planet which supports an abundance of life is all just a coincidence. He also said if there's not a god then the chances of life after death is slim to none. KMC what's your take on the matter?
Hawkings is overated and if he said some of the stuff he said there you can see hes a guy that likes to make assumptions.