General Zod Vs Hulk (Movie versions)

Originally posted by Cogito
Then you clearly don't understand context.

I understand the context just fine, you want him to be more skilled than his feats show him to be.

So, does Thanos have any lifting feats?

How is this line of reasoning different than claiming whenever Thanos overmatches a brick, he's overmatching a poorly written version of that brick?

I don't think Warrior Madness Thor with the Power Gem had any lifting feats either.

Originally posted by Silent Master
I understand the context just fine, you want him to be more skilled than his feats show him to be.

No, you don't understand context.

You don't understand technological limitations.
You don't understand the limits of actors.
You don't understand powerscaling.
You don't understand intent.

Do you honestly believe that General Zod, who is meant to be a serious threat to Superman, would be as skilled as a parapalegic because that's what you think you saw?

Actually, Superman in that movie had no notable skill whatsoever.

Remember the random dude in the coffee shop that wrecked him when he was depowered? that dude wasn't all that big or strong looking either.

I don't recall Clark fighting back.

Originally posted by Cogito
No, you don't understand context.

You don't understand technological limitations.
You don't understand the limits of actors.
You don't understand powerscaling.
You don't understand intent.

Do you honestly believe that General Zod, who is meant to be a serious threat to Superman, would be as skilled as a parapalegic because that's what you think you saw?

The only thing that matters is what the movie actually shows, and what it shows is that Zod has zero fighting skills.

Eh, I'll still go with Zod overall.

Originally posted by Silent Master

Logic states that he's only as skilled or strong as his feats show.

Thats the worst logic ever.. So if he doesn't lift a mountain or push the moon your great "logic" tells you he cant?? Even though he had no reason to do such things?? Logic failed.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
Actually, Superman in that movie had no notable skill whatsoever.

Remember the random dude in the coffee shop that wrecked him when he was depowered? that dude wasn't all that big or strong looking either.

speaking of de-powred, am i the only one who thinks that superman wasn't back to his super self when he fought Zod? sure he got his powers back, but imo, not at the level they originally were.

Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
speaking of de-powred, am i the only one who thinks that superman wasn't back to his super self when he fought Zod? sure he got his powers back, but imo, not at the level they originally were.

There was nothing to suggest this in the movie.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Thats the worst logic ever.. So if he doesn't lift a mountain or push the moon your great "logic" tells you he cant?? Even though he had no reason to do such things?? Logic failed.

This just in, Movie Hulk is strong enough to destroy the moon with a punch and fast enough to hit lightspeed.

He just never had a reason to in the movie.

Originally posted by Silent Master
This just in, Movie Hulk is strong enough to destroy the moon with a punch and fast enough to hit lightspeed.

He just never had a reason to in the movie.

There are two parts of his argument that made his point (not one). His point was

If there is GOOD reason that a character can do something yet they haven't shown it then it is bad logic to assume that they can't do it.
Based off the other movies we know how strong and how fast Superman (a kryptonian) can be. Thus it is logical to assume Zod or any other kryptonian can at least perform somewhere in the vicinity as Superman (just based off the strong argument of canonicity). Even in the same movie, Superman has shown great strength which contradicts anything you are arguing. Zod held his own against this same Superman.

Lastly,
There is NO GOOD reason why movie Hulk can possibly destroy the moon with a punch and be fast enough to hit lightspeed. He nor his adversary had any feats to contradict that fact. If so, then we shouldn't assume that he can't do such things solely based off the fact that they were not shown.

Movie and comic Zod aren't the same person, as such there isn't a good reason to assume that movie Zod is more skilled than he was shown to be in the movie.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Movie and comic Zod aren't the same person, as such there isn't a good reason to assume that movie Zod is more skilled than he was shown to be in the movie.

Huh? 😕

Not only is comic Zod irrelevant but who even implied (or merely thought) about comic Zod? And skill has nothing to do with winning in this fight. Hulk can't even hurt Zod with the strength Hulk has shown.

Originally posted by h1a8
Huh? 😕

Not only is comic Zod irrelevant but who even implied (or merely thought) about comic Zod? And skill has nothing to do with winning in this fight. Hulk can't even hurt Zod with the strength Hulk has shown.

Someone finally gets it, Movie Zod only gets credit for the feats done by movie Zod..As such his HTH skill is almost nonexistent.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Someone finally gets it, Movie Zod only gets credit for the feats done by movie Zod..As such his HTH skill is almost nonexistent.

He did have some skill now. He knew to hit Superman down low when they tussled. That takes experience.

With that said, I agree with you. It's just it's irrelevant when someone can't hurt you.