Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
so.. Balder the Brave should be in Thor 3?????
Seems natural. A story going back a few hundred years, where Loki's prank with mistletoe gets Balder killed, and he wanders in Hel all that time...but he gets out through some means and warns about the rise of the dead under Hela, who's in league with Surtur, prepping to make his move on Asgard...something like that.
Originally posted by roughrider
What - Tony should call Rhodey and take back the armour, while he was figuring things out in Tennessee? Rhodey was busy on government business, running around the globe following Mandarin leads. Besides, Tony isn't the type to call for outside help for his problems, other than to get into a server.
No I meant they should have given him some proper action whilst on his government mission. And they certainly should have not had him ***** slapped the way he was.
But hey that's not the worst thing about the movie.
Originally posted by roughrider
Seems natural. A story going back a few hundred years, where Loki's prank with mistletoe gets Balder killed, and he wanders in Hel all that time...but he gets out through some means and warns about the rise of the dead under Hela, who's in league with Surtur, prepping to make his move on Asgard...something like that.
that could work, maybe even have Skurge and The Enchantress in it as well
Originally posted by emporerpantsI answered your question. Get over it, troll.
Quan, I'm not here for dancing lessons, you just go ahead and keep dancing around that question all want, it's obvious you can't answer it. if you want to keep yelling about MOS in this thread go ahead, I'm done feeding the troll.Anyway, yeah, it was stupid how the suits got ripped apart so easily. Made Tony's tech look feebish. Also, did anyone else find it odd how the bad guys could pilot the Iron Patriot suit so easily the first time they got in it when in the first movie Tony himself struggled at first?
Originally posted by DARTH POWERInto Darkness is a far superior movie IMO but Thats just me. You can continue to not compare it to marvel since it isn't even a competition anymore.
So yeah I guess not only is MOS clearly a better movie than Star Trek Into Darkness, but also Zak Synder is obviously laughing at JJ Abrams failure.
The only part of iron man 3 that i legitimately disliked was when pepper fell off the building. Pepper is supposed to be the love of his life, the only person who matters» and Tony was angry for only 2 seconds. the movie missed a chance for an awesome revenge fight.
I didn't particularly mind that they didn't use Mandarin with his magic rings, movie was enjoyable
Originally posted by quanchi112
it was a great movie. Hands down. Mos was trash.
LOL, Synder is laughing at Abrams all the way to the bank 😂
Originally posted by quanchi112
You can continue to not compare it to marvel since it isn't even a competition anymore.
Well considering it made more than the first solo outing of any Marvel character except Spider-Man, it clearly is a competition.
Anyway, this is about Thor, so stop with the DC Bashing.
Originally posted by Inhumanlol still seemed like all the suits were fodder in the final battle to those extemis humans, even the tougher looking suits fell like nothing. Hard to imagine the suits not being able to with stand a high temperatures. Also those extremis humans couldnt be much stronger than Cap from what i remember.
If the extremis was as powerful as the comics they could have been anywhere between 80-100 ton class. The first time IM fought one it was like he was wearing tinfoil.
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
LOL, Synder is laughing at Abrams all the way to the bank 😂Well considering it made more than the first solo outing of any Marvel character except Spider-Man, it clearly is a competition.
Not an accurate comparison. Superman had 35 years of movies in the modern era, and this was his second one in 7 years. Just because it was a reboot doesn't mean it was a debut. Iron Man & Thor had virtually no live action or long running animated series to speak off, and both took off extremely well first time out of the gate - both outgrossing Superman Returns in 2006, which was supposed to be Superman's big return after a 19 year movie absence.
It's not completely about money, either. The first reboot of this era was Batman Begins in 2005; it was only a solid hit, not a runaway blockbuster. But it had to cleanse away the stench of 1997's Batman & Robin, and people will still getting used to the idea of rebooting instead of sequels (it's happened several times since.)
Originally posted by JayDaDon
If the extremis was as powerful as the comics they could have been anywhere between 80-100 ton class. The first time IM fought one it was like he was wearing tinfoil.
That is because the film Ironman armor tech has next to no actual defensive technology.
Tony in the films just has highly durable armor. In the comics he has electromagnetic fields and most importantly Inertial Dampeners.
Which greatly increase his defensive capabilities.
The film version of Ironman is greatly lacking in the tech department. Which is a shame because the writers thought the public couldn't handle it.
Even the recent animated series Avengers: EMH gave Tony such powers. And not surprisingly they cancelled the series and replaced it with a more film friendly version, Avengers Assemble. Which sucks.
A great example of films influencing comic canon in a negative way.
Originally posted by the ninjak
That is because the film Ironman armor tech has next to no actual defensive technology.Tony in the films just has highly durable armor. In the comics he has electromagnetic fields and most importantly Inertial Dampeners.
Which greatly increase his defensive capabilities.
The film version of Ironman is greatly lacking in the tech department. Which is a shame because the writers thought the public couldn't handle it.
Even the recent animated series Avengers: EMH gave Tony such powers. And not surprisingly they cancelled the series and replaced it with a more film friendly version, Avengers Assemble. Which sucks.A great example of films influencing comic canon in a negative way.
I think the public couldn't swallow Tony creating force fields for the armour; advanced as the armour is, that would be too far out for them to buy.
Now, if he gets some alien tech somewhere in a future Avengers film and incorporates it into the armour, creating shields, that would be believed. We saw lots of force shields being used on Asgard in the new Thor movie, and people accept it without question because it's an otherworldly/alien realm with advanced magical tech we don't understand. In Avengers, the device creating the portal manages to shield itself because the power source is the otherworldly Tesseract.
I think the writers made the right call for now. And there is precedent in the comics of Tony getting some alien tech into the armour; his armour in The Heroic Age gets scanned by Ultron, who observes it now contains some Kree tech.
Originally posted by JayDaDon
Who was the new character in asgard with the upward horned helmet? I didn't catch who that was supposed to be, at first I thought he may have been Baldur.
What scene? Tyr was one of the familiar ones who debuted in the film, but didn't get properly introduced. I noticed no one else wearing helmets but Bor in the flashback and the Einherjar guard.
Originally posted by roughrider
I think the public couldn't swallow Tony creating force fields for the armour; advanced as the armour is, that would be too far out for them to buy.Now, if he gets some alien tech somewhere in a future Avengers film and incorporates it into the armour, creating shields, that would be believed. We saw lots of force shields being used on Asgard in the new Thor movie, and people accept it without question because it's an otherworldly/alien realm with advanced magical tech we don't understand. In Avengers, the device creating the portal manages to shield itself because the power source is the otherworldly Tesseract.
I think the writers made the right call for now. And there is precedent in the comics of Tony getting some alien tech into the armour; his armour in The Heroic Age gets scanned by Ultron, who observes it now contains some Kree tech.
Why not? He's launching pieces of armor onto his body unrealistically in IM3.
This is Marvel. The plot of Extremis was him stealing the tech of a friend to upgrade himself. She was in the actual film!
His secretary took the tech into herself!
He cured her!
Then a bullcrap plot was introduced to get his shrapnel out of his heart which was nothing more than Chinese propaganda for a foreign edition of the film!
BULL.......SHIT!
There is no reason for a film version of Extremis to have been presented to us. Besides marketing and international budgeting and internal favouritism.
It tore the film's creative potential apart.
Originally posted by roughrider
Not an accurate comparison. Superman had 35 years of movies in the modern era, and this was his second one in 7 years. Just because it was a reboot doesn't mean it was a debut. Iron Man & Thor had virtually no live action or long running animated series to speak off, and both took off extremely well first time out of the gate - both outgrossing Superman Returns in 2006, which was supposed to be Superman's big return after a 19 year movie absence.It's not completely about money, either. The first reboot of this era was Batman Begins in 2005; it was only a solid hit, not a runaway blockbuster. But it had to cleanse away the stench of 1997's Batman & Robin, and people will still getting used to the idea of rebooting instead of sequels (it's happened several times since.)
Spoiler:
I was trolling Quanchi
Although I would add MOS had the challenge of cleansing the stench of Superman Returns much like Batman Begins had to do so after Batman&Robin.
Son like the BB sequels, the MOS sequels are likely to gross much more than the original.
Originally posted by roughrider
I think the public couldn't swallow Tony creating force fields for the armour; advanced as the armour is, that would be too far out for them to buy.Now, if he gets some alien tech somewhere in a future Avengers film and incorporates it into the armour, creating shields, that would be believed. We saw lots of force shields being used on Asgard in the new Thor movie, and people accept it without question because it's an otherworldly/alien realm with advanced magical tech we don't understand. In Avengers, the device creating the portal manages to shield itself because the power source is the otherworldly Tesseract.
I think the writers made the right call for now. And there is precedent in the comics of Tony getting some alien tech into the armour; his armour in The Heroic Age gets scanned by Ultron, who observes it now contains some Kree tech.
Might be true. I think part of why IM appealed so much to the public was that they sort of thought, "hey this technology might be possible.. it would be so cool to have that armor."
Originally posted by the ninjakThere is no reason for a film version of Extremis to have been presented to us. Besides marketing and international budgeting and internal favouritism.
If it wasn't for the fact Extremis quickly became one of the most famous and acclaimed storylines in IM's history, I might agree. 😛
You can claim Chinese favouritism, but the Mandarin is a dated yellow peril caricature that was always going to be heavily changed once he hit the screen. That they went with the Osama Bin Laden style angle of 'extreme target drawing attention' struck all but the most extreme purist as clever. Your fanboy yelping can't be heard over the film's monster worldwide box office. 😉
Somewhere down the line, those ten magical rings will find a way to come to Earth, as a consequence of something else happening in the shared universe. Then someone of the wrong character will get them, and there will be a more plausible version of the Mandarin on the big screen. They'll actually have a name too, and not just be known as the 'Mandarin.'