Originally posted by CosmicComet
In character or what not doesn't matter, CIS/WIS is off. The characters get to do what is specifically within their abilities to do. Speed is simply that important, when your opponent can't hit you or even perceive you, that trumps everything else--unless the character is simply durable enough to withstand everything which would just make for an endless stalemate. The Hulk would literally be a statue to Barry. There is no possibly argument to make that the Hulk would 'eventually' land a hit, there is no such thing possible when the speed difference is that great. Maybe if someone was only a few multiples faster, but not by magnitudes that would make a puddle vs an ocean seem like a conservative analogy.Let's make a Barry vs Galactus thread though, no joke.
CIS/WIS isn't off, though. It's just weird that with speed, we write off every instance of them being tagged or slowed down as PIS, accept every high showing as the norm, and place it on this warped pedestal that completely undermines what the intent of said power and character is. Worse, you get people who truly believe the Flash is bordering on abstract level of power and is a literal god above gods.
If you're serious about it, that's fine by me, but we've already had a Zoom/Galactus thread (and I think Wally/Galactus, too) and it devolved into sheer idiocy before too long.