Originally posted by Ferret FiendHe oneshotted one scrub and has been crushed before in combat and taken one too many asskickings to be a real threat to the dragon Hunter.
mehMcClane has taken on skilled H2H combatants before and has one shoted someone I believe. Van doesn't have many good H2H skills.
Originally posted by quanchi112
He oneshotted one scrub and has been crushed before in combat and taken one too many asskickings to be a real threat to the dragon Hunter.
Van has hunted dragons with WEAPONS. Being a skilled weapon master does not make you an expert in H2H. Which is why i say John wins, because he actually has had H2H fight and although some are bad, most are good.
And One shoting a scrub is more impressive than you think.
Originally posted by Ferret FiendWatch Zan take on Quinn in hand to hand and simply lau off his assault. They had to pull Zan off of him whereas McClane often relies on guns, stupidity to save him.
Van has hunted dragons with WEAPONS. Being a skilled weapon master does not make you an expert in H2H. Which is why i say John wins, because he actually has had H2H fight and although some are bad, most are good.And One shoting a scrub is more impressive than you think.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Watch Zan take on Quinn in hand to hand and simply lau off his assault. They had to pull Zan off of him whereas McClane often relies on guns, stupidity to save him.
Quinn isn't skilled tho. McClane needs guns because people who are after them USE guns. Neither McClane or Van are bullet proof.
Originally posted by Ferret FiendMcclane frequently gets his ass kicked and needs guns though. He uses guns against people who do not have guns. Zan would take his best shots and maul him.
Quinn isn't skilled tho. McClane needs guns because people who are after them USE guns. Neither McClane or Van are bullet proof.
Originally posted by quanchi112Did you not read my post? None of what you said countered my post.
Mcclane frequently gets his ass kicked and needs guns though. He uses guns against people who do not have guns. Zan would take his best shots and maul him.
You tried using Quinn, Quinn isn't skilled. McClane has fought trained H2H combatants. van has not.
Originally posted by Ferret FiendHis physique was still impressive and his survival unmatched save Zan. Zan mauled him which is far better than being beaten down in various films like McClane has.
Trained to survive doesn't make you skilled in H2H, every seen. Man vs wild or Dual survival? They can survive MANY different harsh environments.Skilled in survival does not mean skilled in H2H.