Gorgon vs Morlun

Started by SamZED3 pages

Dont think it was ever specified oficially.

Originally posted by SamZED
I agree that he most likely wasnt meant to be that powerful originally, but he didnt actually recieved an amp, not an official power boost that it. They just went with - "he was always that tough but didnt display his full potential before".

Thats my entire point. I don't disagree that he stronger now or that it was a bad move or anything. Just that when he was written to fight spiderman he was written at much lower level. I think Gorgon could defeat that depiction, but current version, not so much

Originally posted by SamZED

I dont think he stood a chance back then even, Morlun was playing with him. And even though he wasnt meant to be THAT powerful he was already too durable for Spider-man's punches, basically laughed at his best shots and Pete delivered dozens.

He was Omega Red pretty much. Spiderman was capable of putting up a fight with a toying Morlun, but needs plot device to secure any advantage. Morlun wanted to he could have ended a fight between the two extremely fast by simply utilizing his full abilites.

Originally posted by SamZED
I thought it was his blood too but im not sure now, Morlun didnt have a scratch later, maybe that was Pete's own blood.

I just assumed that had to do with his powers, because he could absorb life energy. Which simply kept giving him energy.

Originally posted by SamZED

Morlun looked brand new.
I wouldnt go as far as to say he's faster than Spider-an as there's no proof, but the way he cought up to him in that room, that was insanely impressive. Plus he with one hand cought two organic web-lines (the same that were shown to be faster than bullets). He's just not the speed utilizing kinda character but its safe to say he's crazy fast.


I do agree he was very fast, I jsut dont think he was as fast. He reminds me of Red. Fast enough to when he wants to catch them, but not quite as fast.

Originally posted by SamZED

That was near the beginning of the fight, Pete wasnt hurt yet. iirc he leaped but Morlun closed the distance before he could reach the window.

Oh really dam I did not remember that.

sorry if my point was not originally clear. I dont think Spiderman stould a chance against Morlun when he was his rouge, but he could put up some sort of fight if he was toying with him. But current Morlun depiction shows that he wouldent even register people on spidermans level.

Hmm would yall think morlun is very high meta or even low herald?

Low Herald...he is a beast and like everyone said, he was toying with Spiderman. He could have killed Spidey any time he wanted. I am kind of lopsided on who would win this and honestly, I always depicted him as being faster than Spidey. Especially when he killed all of those officers before Spidey could react.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
Yes he did. He was able to put up a fight which is haft the reason Morlun persuade him. Also I not saying Spiderman could even beat Morlun at all, I am saying he capable of putting up a fight, if morlun holding back. He had pretty much identical relationship with Spiderman as Wolverine did with Omega red. There capable of fighting them because they toy with them. However Morlun that showed up at Panthers door step was completely different beast. If you compare the two is clearly obvious. That Morlun was holding back more so then he did against Spiderman and was destroying the most advance nation on the planet with utter ease.
Spiderman never even made him stagger.

Show me in scans where Morlun looked like he was even in a fight? Morlun let Spiderman just wail on him and he wasn't even affected. The most "damage" done to Morlun was when Morlun purposely blew himself up in that restaurant, and even that didn't affect him.

morlun was awesome initially. spidey got in some good shots but knew he couldn't win and basically ran for his life the whole day. morlun could have ended that fight a couple times iirc in which case the fight would have been nowhere NEAR as 'close' as it ended up being. one of my fave spidey arcs fo sure.

still, bare-handed against gorgon with grasscutter? not sure what he'll be able to do before he's too cut up to fight back. bare-handed guy against uber swordsman with swords that cut anything don't usually end up all that well....

Originally posted by SamZED
Morlun covered like 20 feet faster than Spider-man could cover 5. And he's been hit with hundred vibranium missles. With literally no effect. Shouldnt that make him beast as well?

I like how u put that. But the dood is wearing a grass skirt, that takes him down a couple notches in my book.

^ lol he wears a coat sometimes.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
Thats my entire point. I don't disagree that he stronger now or that it was a bad move or anything. Just that when he was written to fight spiderman he was written at much lower level. I think Gorgon could defeat that depiction, but current version, not so much. He was Omega Red pretty much. Spiderman was capable of putting up a fight with a toying Morlun, but needs plot device to secure any advantage. Morlun wanted to he could have ended a fight between the two extremely fast by simply utilizing his full abilites.
Sorry for a late responce. Too much work.
Gotcha, agreed.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan

I just assumed that had to do with his powers, because he could absorb life energy. Which simply kept giving him energy.
Im pretty sure his ability to absorb life force isnt on all the time. He has those bright thingies on his palm to absorb life force. So I guess its just his strength when he hits.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
sorry if my point was not originally clear. I dont think Spiderman stould a chance against Morlun when he was his rouge, but he could put up some sort of fight if he was toying with him. But current Morlun depiction shows that he wouldent even register people on spidermans level.
Yeah, if he's going all I out definitely.

Originally posted by carver9
Low Herald...he is a beast and like everyone said, he was toying with Spiderman. He could have killed Spidey any time he wanted. I am kind of lopsided on who would win this and honestly, I always depicted him as being faster than Spidey. Especially when he killed all of those officers before Spidey could react.
Dont forget that Spider-man himself was weakened during the fight. He was dying and his powers were failing constantly.