Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I forgot how recent that scene was. There's so much Green Lantern related material, I haven't re-read most of it.Haha I sometimes forget how much Johns despises the Spectre. That was during Rebirth when he came to Earth and was fighting Parallax or something.
Johns was always fair to Hal-Spectre (go figure).
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
PM that reference to the current Administration. Maybe then the little blue f*cks will be shown to be slightly competent.I'll admit, that was impressive. The most impressive thing I think I've seen a Guardian do in a long time.
I like Ganthet -despise the rest of the Guardians though- so I won't attempt to belittle the showing.
I agree more or less, Ganthet is fine, the rest of the Guardians are stupid jerks and also profesional jobbers.
Even if certain events weren't shown on panel (or shown much) because they happened billions of years ago, the Guardians still have massively impressive feats, including:
- Creating the Manhunters
- Krona creating a device that accidentally split the universe into an infinite multiverse and created the original anti-monitor
- Originally discovering and trapping the original fear (Parallax) and avarice (Ophidian) entities. Willpower (Ion) is captured somehow as well. Female Guardians (Zamarons) capture love (the Predator).
People tend to ignore these events because they prefer to think of Guardians as little blue shits who sit around and do literally nothing, but they have incredibly impressive feats that are way beyond heralds. They're legit skyfathers (not Odin level, granted)
Originally posted by CogitoThe Guardians solo'd the burning Martians race in personal combat, and then were kind enough to not produce genocide and just genetic-raped them.
Even if certain events weren't shown on panel (or shown much) because they happened billions of years ago, the Guardians still have massively impressive feats, including:- Creating the Manhunters
- Krona creating a device that accidentally split the universe into an infinite multiverse and created the original anti-monitor
- Originally discovering and trapping the original fear (Parallax) and avarice (Ophidian) entities. Willpower (Ion) is captured somehow as well. Female Guardians (Zamarons) capture love (the Predator).People tend to ignore these events because they prefer to think of Guardians as little blue shits who sit around and do literally nothing, but they have incredibly impressive feats that are way beyond heralds. They're legit skyfathers (not Odin level, granted)
That's Fernus, only as a race.
There's really no comparison even as far as a random Guardian is concerned.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
How far up in terms of Skyfathers? Low, high? If you place him on par with Odin, I'll have a hearty laugh.Thor hasn't always won fights against Skyfathers and more powerful entities but he's done extremely well over the years. So well as a matter of fact, that the idea he can't beat Ganthet even once is just straight up lowballing.
Thor has the power to significantly hurt or put Ganthet down, especially under the current regime. Throw in his incredible resistance or Mjolnir's vast shielding capabilities along with his nigh unlimited energy absorption, and I can comfortably argue he'd take a split if I was feeling particularly Thorbaggy.
i'd place ganthet somewhere in the middle. he's not odin, but i certainly think he'd put up a hell of a fight against odin.
you say it's 'lowballing' if i don't give him a win? how many times has thor beaten a legit skyfather (low OR high) 1on1? i have a pretty fair idea..... and yet, as rare as it is, you think it's low-balling to say he won't win here? that.... makes no sense. ganthet is also an uber tp and tk and has loads of other abilities aside from simply blasting with green energy which thor may or may not be able to absorb.
if you want to give him a win, that's not surprising. if you want to argue for a split, i'd say you've passed the stage of rational thor fan.
Originally posted by Cogito
Even if certain events weren't shown on panel (or shown much) because they happened billions of years ago, the Guardians still have massively impressive feats, including:- Creating the Manhunters
- Krona creating a device that accidentally split the universe into an infinite multiverse and created the original anti-monitor
- Originally discovering and trapping the original fear (Parallax) and avarice (Ophidian) entities. Willpower (Ion) is captured somehow as well. Female Guardians (Zamarons) capture love (the Predator).
Also forgot about the Starheart
Originally posted by BentleyGanthet is the only Guardian worth a lick of salt. But even he turned complete jobber once he got severely downgraded to a mere GL. And it's ridiculous.
I agree more or less, Ganthet is fine, the rest of the Guardians are stupid jerks and also profesional jobbers.
Back during Rebirth as a Guardian he easily dispelled Spectrellax's influence over Guy and John with a mere wave of his hand. More recently, during War of the Green Lanterns he ends up exerting all his willpower and blows up his own hand to free John and Kyle from Parallax's influence.
Back during the build-up to Blackest Night he co-created the first blue power ring with Sayd out of thin air, then went on to co-create the Blue Power Battery and an entire Corps. More recently, during the build-up War of the Green Lanterns, he seemingly exhausts himself when forging a simple, unspecial GL power ring/personal battery.
It's ridiculous.