Thor VS The Gorgon (In a Sword Fight)

Originally posted by Omega visors
first of all it didnt say anything about adamantium ring, second of all its not that easy to knock gorgon out plus his healing factor? naha, third of all? gorgon is by far faster and quicker than thor as the fight starts thor lose both his arms saying "no one can be that fast" only to get an answer "the gorgon is that fast", gorgon proved to be too fast for logan and elektra they couldnt believe his speed, while logan proved to be superior to thor in this department... you start to realise the huge gap between gorgon and thor? thor is dead

yeah its in asgard so no ring. too bad. gorgon would be dead if it were. thor however would most certainly NOT lose both arms as soon as the fight starts. 😂 underestimate thor much? i do agree (as i said a long time ago) that if thor goes sword-to-sword he'd likely lose but it wouldn't be easy and it would only take one blow from thor to end it. he could likely stun gorgon with a thunderclap. and if you think gorgon covers 500m before thor can thunderclap, you know less about thor than you already appear to.

Originally posted by Silent Master
When did Wolverine prove to be "far superiour" to Thor in speed? Was it when Thor blocked some of his attacks, was it when Thor hit him or was it when Thor grabbed Logan's leg and threw him?

twisting things up as always, wolverine was able to cut thor several times and thor couldnt do a thing, thor himself admitted wolverine is faster than him, thor couldnt defend himself against wolverine so he had to use his lighting as he said himself he cant keep getting more of those wounds, thor was able to grab wolverines anckle only when wolverine jumped on him and was in mid air where he couldnt really move or avoid thor.

eventually even if you are faster you are going to get tagged but thats what? 1 tag forthor and how much hits for wolverine? 5?6?7?

oh and i never said that wolverine is "far superior" to thor if you read my post i said just "superior" but i guess your fanboy glasses add more spice to the words Lol

Originally posted by leonidas
yeah its in asgard so no ring. too bad. gorgon would be dead if it were. thor however would most certainly NOT lose both arms as soon as the fight starts. 😂 underestimate thor much? i do agree (as i said a long time ago) that if thor goes sword-to-sword he'd likely lose but it wouldn't be easy and it would only take one blow from thor to end it. he could likely stun gorgon with a thunderclap. and if you think gorgon covers 500m before thor can thunderclap, you know less about thor than you already appear to.

thunderclap? first of all thor never use that so dont make things up, second of all its a sword fight... so thor is going to throw down his sword and then he will clap his hands and gorgon will just watch? look how many errors you already have, a thunderclap wont ko gorgon who has insane damage soak and a healing factor at least on par with wolverines.

its you who underestimates gorgon, thor is a brawler and specially in a sword fight he is going to try and fight gorgon with the damn sword and this is where he lose both his arms , but as i said before 1 dimensional posters will refuse to accept it because you know "TOR IZ ZTRONGAR" ....great logic

I like how you claim that Thor couldn't do a thing despite the comic showing Thor hit, block and throw Wolverine.

Originally posted by Omega visors
thunderclap? first of all thor never use that so dont make things up, second of all its a sword fight... so thor is going to throw down his sword and then he will clap his hands and gorgon will just watch? look how many errors you already have, a thunderclap wont ko gorgon who has insane damage soak and a healing factor at least on par with wolverines.

its you who underestimates gorgon, thor is a brawler and specially in a sword fight he is going to try and fight gorgon with the damn sword and this is where he lose both his arms , but as i said before 1 dimensional posters will refuse to accept it because you know "TOR IZ ZTRONGAR" ....great logic

😆

you're cute. you don't know a thing about thor apparently, but you're funny at least.

(a) thor can and HAS used thunderclaps in the past. given that he has knowledge of who he is fighting and his powers, he would likely know going straight 1on1 would NOT be smart. a thunderclap would be a logical and plausible attack. (b) it most certainly WOULD stun or stagger him. thor could then follow with a shockwave and be on him instantly.

i love how you're telling me how thor would fight. 👆 great idea except you obviously know less than nothing about thor. i'm very sure he'd stand there while gorgon just cuts off his arms. 😆 brilliant. but i'm one-dimensional? this from the guy who says thor stands there while gorgon rushes at him and cuts his hands off! ironic much?

and you DO know thor isn't exactly slow, right.....?

http://g.imagehost.org/view/0487/mtu_v1_026_p10

anywho, AGAIN--if thor goes sword-to-sword he'd likely lose though some may argue his reaction times are enough to let him keep up with gorgon. it is possible, no doubt, but i don't think his reaction times are CONSISTENTLY quick enough for me to say that. however, if he gets a TINY opening, he'd kill gorgon without effort. he could make that opening if he fights smart enough. you know he can fly as well, without his hammer right....? 😖hifty:

Thor should be able to do a Thunderclap.

Even Fat Cobra did one in Immortal Iron Fist.

Originally posted by Silent Master
I like how you claim that Thor couldn't do a thing despite the comic showing Thor hit, block and throw Wolverine.

what the comics does show us is wolverine inflicting several hits on thor and thor is unable to do anything, comics shows us THOR HIMSELF saying wolverine is faster, and comics shows us thor admitting he cant go on like that and he had to use his lightning... but as i said before fanboy glasses give you interesting view on thing

Originally posted by leonidas
😆

you're cute. you don't know a thing about thor apparently, but you're funny at least.

(a) thor can and HAS used thunderclaps in the past. given that he has knowledge of who he is fighting and his powers, he would likely know going straight 1on1 would NOT be smart. a thunderclap would be a logical and plausible attack. (b) it most certainly WOULD stun or stagger him. thor could then follow with a shockwave and be on him instantly.

i love how you're telling me how thor would fight. 👆 great idea except you obviously know less than nothing about thor. i'm very sure he'd stand there while gorgon just cuts off his arms. 😆 brilliant. but i'm one-dimensional? this from the guy who says thor stands there while gorgon rushes at him and cuts his hands off! ironic much?

and you DO know thor isn't exactly slow, right.....?

http://g.imagehost.org/view/0487/mtu_v1_026_p10

anywho, AGAIN--if thor goes sword-to-sword he'd likely lose though some may argue his reaction times are enough to let him keep up with gorgon. it is possible, no doubt, but i don't think his reaction times are CONSISTENTLY quick enough for me to say that. however, if he gets a TINY opening, he'd kill gorgon without effort. he could make that opening if he fights smart enough. you know he can fly as well, without his hammer right....? 😖hifty:

this thread restricts both of them to a sword fight which thor will lose as you said yourself if you like to discuss thor throwing the sword and going hand 2 hand? then gorgon is reading his mind and counter anything thor will try to do its very simple

actually yes gorgon is that fast for thor to the point he will rush and cut his arms and there isnt much thor can do about it , gorgon proved to be way too fast for wolverine and elektra and we all know wolverine is superior to thor in speed so... you know... yes i am standing behind the claim that gorgon is that fast for thor , gorgon will rush to thor and even if thor can react to that gorgon will simply read his mind then he will know whats the next move thor is about to do and simply gorgon will manuver him get close and cut his arms off

your last resurt is thor suddenly using a thunder clap? first of all he never starts the fight like that ever... but you know what? lets say he does ... gorgon reads his mind as the fight starts and realise thor is going to use his thunder clap, he just stay away from the attack until he see an opening and rush and kill thor, and hell thors thunder clap wont ko gorgon i mean seriously wolverine done very well against thunder claps it didnt even daze him and gorgon is wolverine on some serious steroids, gorgon has only a healing factor at least on par with wolverine but his damage soak is crazy , all those combined will allow gorgon easily take some thunder clap NOT from point blank and move out of its direction and then kill thor

i find it very laughable how hulk and thor fans always find this "thunder clap starts the fight" when they know there favorite is about to lose 😆

Hulk thunderclaps much more that Thor though.

Originally posted by Omega visors
this thread restricts both of them to a sword fight which thor will lose as you said yourself if you like to discuss thor throwing the sword and going hand 2 hand? then gorgon is reading his mind and counter anything thor will try to do its very simple

actually yes gorgon is that fast for thor to the point he will rush and cut his arms and there isnt much thor can do about it , gorgon proved to be way too fast for wolverine and elektra and we all know wolverine is superior to thor in speed so... you know... yes i am standing behind the claim that gorgon is that fast for thor , gorgon will rush to thor and even if thor can react to that gorgon will simply read his mind then he will know whats the next move thor is about to do and simply gorgon will manuver him get close and cut his arms off

your last resurt is thor suddenly using a thunder clap? first of all he never starts the fight like that ever... but you know what? lets say he does ... gorgon reads his mind as the fight starts and realise thor is going to use his thunder clap, he just stay away from the attack until he see an opening and rush and kill thor, and hell thors thunder clap wont ko gorgon i mean seriously wolverine done very well against thunder claps it didnt even daze him and gorgon is wolverine on some serious steroids, gorgon has only a healing factor at least on par with wolverine but his damage soak is crazy , all those combined will allow gorgon easily take some thunder clap NOT from point blank and move out of its direction and then kill thor

i find it very laughable how hulk and thor fans always find this "thunder clap starts the fight" when they know there favorite is about to lose 😆

and what you fail to understand--again--is that thor KNOWS who he is fighting, and understands his basic powers which include speed and tp. HE IS NOT DUMB. so yeah, OF COURSE he'll do what he can to win HOWEVER he can. if he knows gorgon, he'll know a straight sword fight would probably not be the best idea though as you can see he is NOT slow and could likely react to gorgon. there are plenty of scans showing thor's speed, but his reaction times in particular.

it has nothing to do with favourites (though it's ironic you're telling me I'M going for my fave when clearly you have more of a vested interest in claiming gorgon wins than i do regarding thor....) it has to do with on-panel proof that thor will be able to react to gorgon and has options OTHER than the very clever "i'll stand here and let him cut my hands off!!!1!" 😂

Originally posted by Omega visors
what the comics does show us is wolverine inflicting several hits on thor and thor is unable to do anything, comics shows us THOR HIMSELF saying wolverine is faster, and comics shows us thor admitting he cant go on like that and he had to use his lightning... but as i said before fanboy glasses give you interesting view on thing

By Thor was unable to do anything, you of course mean Thor was able to hit, block and throw Wolverine.

Originally posted by Omega visors
and you forgot about gorgons ability to read his opponent mind and know what he is about to do? or you didnt know about that ability? and show me thor throwing something at light speed, and even if you do that it doesnt matter since gorgon will read his mind and counter that crap... or hell just kill thor as the fight starts

So, just because Gorgon knows that Thor's gonna throw the sword at light speed he can automatically dodge it? LOL!

knowing and moving fast enough to react are two different things.

as for light speed tosses. Thor can throw mjolnier at light speeds and even faster.

Also, let us not forget the light speed pie throw that Thor directed at Balder. 😛

Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
So, just because Gorgon knows that Thor's gonna throw the sword at light speed he can automatically dodge it? LOL!

Yes. By keeping ahead of his aim and general movement speeds, which is waaaaaay slower than the speed he can throw things.

It's the same principle that lets non bullet timers punk thugs with guns.

What's this shit about Gorgon cutting off Thor's arms? This Omega guy is loony.

Originally posted by Damborgson
That comic was so ridiculous...Thor couldnt hit Logan but he manages to grab him by the ankle? While talking about how fast he is? my God Marvel....

Faster != untouchable

Demetrious Johnson is easily the fastest bantamweight, other fighters still manage punch him and manage to shoot in for take downs... but he is still faster then they are. Wolverine landed more hits on Thor then vice versa, and dodged more hits... what about that do you feel contradicted him being faster than Thor?

Anyway in Asgard Thor is essentially immortal and his damage soak is off the chart. He tanked being impaled through the lungs and possibly heart like it was nothing. He is much more powerful in this fight scenario then he is typically when fighting on Midgard, short of decapitation there is nothing Gorgan can do to win... and even then it is possible Thor could pick up and reattach his head, because I'm fairly certain Vostagg has done that.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
What's this shit about Gorgon cutting off Thor's arms? This Omega guy is loony.

Did you read the Ares mini?

Phobos was carving up Ares like a thanksgiving turkey, and Ares's durability is comparable with Hercules or Thor.. Phobos isn't known for his vast strength, it was all his skill and the power of his sword, Grasscutter, which shattered Godkiller, a Skyfather weapon.

Also, again, he killed Mika in one swing of the sword, and he was butchering gods and skyfathers, and for all intents and purposes seemed unstoppable.

Originally posted by cdtm
Yes. By keeping ahead of his aim, which is waaaaaay slower than the speed he can throw things.

It's the same principle that lets non bullet timers punk thugs with guns.

bullets =/= light speed.

this reminds me of the episode of mythbusters where they try to dodge a snipers bullet. Even though they know that the bullet is coming. They cant move fast enough to dodge it. same principle here. sure it could work for bullets, but light speed projectiles are exponentially faster than bullets. Gorgon aint dodging that.

Originally posted by cdtm
Did you read the Ares mini?

Phobos was carving up Ares like a thanksgiving turkey, and Ares's durability is comparable with Hercules or Thor.. Phobos isn't known for his vast strength, it was all his skill and the power of his sword, Grasscutter, which shattered Godkiller, a Skyfather weapon.

Also, again, he killed Mika in one swing of the sword, and he was butchering gods and skyfathers, and for all intents and purposes seemed unstoppable.

Ares' durability comparable to Hercules or Thor? I think not.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Faster != untouchable

Demetrious Johnson is easily the fastest bantamweight, other fighters still manage punch him and manage to shoot in for take downs... but he is still faster then they are. Wolverine landed more hits on Thor then vice versa, and dodged more hits... what about that do you feel contradicted him being faster than Thor?

Anyway in Asgard Thor is essentially immortal and his damage soak is off the chart. He tanked being impaled through the lungs and possibly heart like it was nothing. He is much more powerful in this fight scenario then he is typically when fighting on Midgard, short of decapitation there is nothing Gorgan can do to win... and even then it is possible Thor could pick up and reattach his head, because I'm fairly certain Vostagg has done that.

Regular Asgardians are harder to kill on Asgard under at least some writers though as JMS' run showed but like with all things, it depends on the writer. During Gillen's run, Asgardian's could survive without their vital organs for a surprisingly long time even on Earth. A regular Asgardian had his heart removed and held on for as long as five minutes IIRC, he would have been fine if it had been placed back.

Loki had his head cut off without any harm done but I haven't ever seen Volstagg do it. At one point I do recall him sustaining an injury that should have been fatal. IIRC, it was a spear to the head/brain area I think.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin

and even then it is possible Thor could pick up and reattach his head, because I'm fairly certain Vostagg has done that.

He has?

i thought only Loki's done that