Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusAngrir beat the phuck out of Rulk. Namor underwater also beat the phuck out of Rulk. Namor underwater, however, got his butt handed to him by Nerkkod. Nerkkod owned the hell out of Alpha Flight and Atlantis and was taking it to the Defenders also.
I don't think Attuma is any more powerful than Worthy Thing. I doubt he'd do better against Thor either. At least that's the vibe I got from Fraction.
I don't put Nerkkod that much higher than Angrir but I think Angrir doesn't get a lot of credit. Something that I think may have been lost during Fear Itself is that Angrir fought a great deal amongst the Worthy (Future Foundation, Rulk, Spider Man) so I think it's fair to say that he was weakened by the time he faced Thor (particularly since Spider Man was actually hurting him).
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Angrir beat the phuck out of Rulk. Namor underwater also beat the phuck out of Rulk. Namor underwater, however, got his butt handed to him by Nerkkod. Nerkkod owned the hell out of Alpha Flight and Atlantis and was taking it to the Defenders also.I don't put Nerkkod that much higher than Angrir but I think Angrir doesn't get a lot of credit. Something that I think may have been lost during Fear Itself is that Angrir fought a great deal amongst the Worthy (Future Foundation, Rulk, Spider Man) so I think it's fair to say that he was weakened by the time he faced Thor (particularly since Spider Man was actually hurting him).
Regarding the Rulk/Angrir fight, you forgot to mention that Rulk wasn't using his energy absorption powers for fear of being stuck in Rulk form. So he wasn't using all his powers vs a bloodlusted opponent.
And Namor underwater isn't' invincible or all powerful. I remember that FF issue where they found Jean's cocoon underwater and attempted to retrieve it. It left off some energy attacks and all the Avengers including Namor were frozen in place and unable to push forward. Hercules muscled his way through and reached the cocoon. Herc > Namor underwater (in terms of strength at least).
Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
Thor took on two worthy's at the same time and won. thats saying how powerful he is compared to the worthies. Thor wins.
He snuck attack one and bfred the other. Not a display of power if you ask me. Then one of them, he admitted he couldn't beat.
Thor is losing this fight. The only Worthy I would give him the edge against is Worthy Thing, Titania, and that's about it and even then, minus sneak attacks, he would have the fight of his life.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Angrir beat the phuck out of Rulk. Namor underwater also beat the phuck out of Rulk. Namor underwater, however, got his butt handed to him by Nerkkod. Nerkkod owned the hell out of Alpha Flight and Atlantis and was taking it to the Defenders also.
If there was ever an example of why ABC logic can be horrible, this is it. Here's there fight:
As you can see, Namor sucker punched Rulk and destroyed his breathing apparatus. He then attacked him a few times while he desperately tried to get to the surface.
On the other hand, he went toe to toe with Nerkkod who has no need for air and got his ass handed to him. I'd wager he'd get wrecked by Angrir as well.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
I don't put Nerkkod that much higher than Angrir but I think Angrir doesn't get a lot of credit. Something that I think may have been lost during Fear Itself is that Angrir fought a great deal amongst the Worthy (Future Foundation, Rulk, Spider Man) so I think it's fair to say that he was weakened by the time he faced Thor (particularly since Spider Man was actually hurting him).
Substitute Nerkkod for Angrir and the fight wouldn't have gone any different. I don't think either of the two is more powerful. Thor even referred to Angrir and Nul as the Serpent's two greatest fear mongers. Take that as you will.
I....I don't even know how to respond to that.
You have to be trolling here. You can't possibly be suggesting that Fraction wrote that fight with Angrir being weakened?
Not only is that some horrible reasoning, but it sets you down one hell of a slippery slope
I'm really having trouble taking this argument seriously unless you have some hard evidence ODG.
Suggesting Angrir was intended to be weakened and believing this is justified by what some might perceive a low showing is imho silly.
Each of the Worthy fought various heroes/teams across different books (Some even more than Angrir such as Kuurth and Nerkkod) and I don't think the Worthy were intended to be weaker in a single one of those fights.
I guess it makes sense that eventually they should get worn down but it's comics.
I can only imagine you'd chastise me if I suggested Odin was severely weakened in his battle with Galactus. After all, he died fighting against Surtur while noticeably depleted, was reborn and immediately fought the World Eaters without any reprieve. So I think it's fair to say that he was weakened by the time he faced the Devourer of Worlds (Particularly since getting hit by a spear was actually hurting him).
On top of that, Fraction doesn't exactly adhere to continuity.
