Originally posted by cdtm
Carver, Skyfather level is, bare minimum, being capable of busting galaxies.Odin vs Seth resulted in destruction on a multi dimensional level. Supergod Herc repaired the entire multiverse with his power..
So Odin and Seth "physically" busted a Galaxy open? I thought it was a blast? I guess no one has the answer to my question. It's pretty simple if you ask me. Like if I ask "what strength fts would be required to have high Herald level strength" and I am pretty sure 12 people would come in here with the same answer but for some strange reason (because its hulk)...no one wants to answer my question.
What strength ft (STRENGTH FT) is required for Hulk to officially be classified as a skyfather level being? What is he missing?
Is Odin physically a skyfather and if so...WHY?
It takes more than strength to cut it as a skyfather..
Otherwise Validus and Mangog would be considered Skyfather level, and they're not. The only reason PC Omega is considered above Skyfather level, is because his power source was the ultimate wishing machine, and he was bending the laws of space by literally walking on space..
Originally posted by cdtm
It takes more than strength to cut it as a skyfather..Otherwise Validus and Mangog would be considered Skyfather level, and they're not. The only reason PC Omega is considered above Skyfather level, is because his power source was the ultimate wishing machine, and he was bending the laws of space by literally walking on space..
So basically you are saying that in a physical match, since no skyfather possess Hulk fts, he should be able to beat then sensless unless they resort to blasting...is this what hu are telling me? I am referring to WBH by the way.
Now if you think a skyfather like Odin can beat WBH in a fist fight....tell me, what physical fts are you using besides "him being a skyfather". Because again, going of everything Hulk has accomplished, he is at least high trans to low skyfather physically.
Originally posted by cdtm
What feats did Zeus have, before he beat Hulk senseless?Yet, he beat him senseless. Skyfather level isn't some one dimensional power.. They can channel their powers into whatever they want, basically.
That wasnt the only time Zeus physically fought someone in the Herald tier by strength alone and Zeus never fought WBH.
What would you classify superman Prime as? What tier would you place him?
Originally posted by vansonbeesorry just saw this. His best feats are being able to go toe to toe with OF thor. That thor right of Bor as being able to one shot him without the OF is very impressive. Considering Classic thor was able to walk (painfully) through a blast from odin. Im not going to argue bor>odin since that would be stupid but I dont doubt Bor as being a sky father in power.
Is Bor really a sky father? Maybe back in the old days, they were just gods (including Odin), but later Odin excels his father power and became a sky father.Bor hasn't display anything sky father worthy. Bor shouldn't be use, as his feats are limited, other than his status.
Originally posted by DamborgsonI think someone else replied to me, but whatever Thor status is, Bor should be the same level, because both struggle against each other, which in turn, Thor killed him.
sorry just saw this. His best feats are being able to go toe to toe with OF thor. That thor right of Bor as being able to one shot him without the OF is very impressive. Considering Classic thor was able to walk (painfully) through a blast from odin. Im not going to argue bor>odin since that would be stupid but I dont doubt Bor as being a sky father in power.
Originally posted by vansonbeeThey were both more or less the same level at the time yea. That was the only fight Thor actually noticeably used the Odinforce in.
I think someone else replied to me, but whatever Thor status is, Bor should be the same level, because both struggle against each other, which in turn, Thor killed him.
Sky Fathers are on another level of power period, Skyfathers dont need feats of strength to beat the any version of Hulk, Thor what so ever, They are just pure power. Thor is stronger than his Father Odin? Yes, But Odin still manhandle his son Thor like a rag doll. Sky-fathers cause shock waves that is felt through out the multiverse, let me know when Hulk can do that. Let me know when Hulk battles someone that near by planets explode, sun explodes and reignite suns due too the shock waves of the battles, like when Odin fought Forsung. Odin grew to 1000 ft and went head up with Sutrur, I like the Hulk but there is a limit of nut swinging you can go.
Bor had enough power to annihilate earth when he fought OF Thor, and Bor wasn't at full strength since he was on Earth, Bor at best would be a high trans or low Sky-father in terms of Strength and power
Originally posted by the DarkoneShock waves by Odin fight, were done by energy release and here we are discussing physical capabilities that are shown on panel.
Sky Fathers are on another level of power period, Skyfathers dont need feats of strength to beat the any version of Hulk, Thor what so ever, They are just pure power. Thor is stronger than his Father Odin? Yes, But Odin still manhandle his son Thor like a rag doll. Sky-fathers cause shock waves that is felt through out the multiverse, let me know when Hulk can do that. Let me know when Hulk battles someone that near by planets explode, sun explodes and reignite suns due too the shock waves of the battles, like when Odin fought Forsung. Odin grew to 1000 ft and went head up with Sutrur, I like the Hulk but there is a limit of nut swinging you can go.Bor had enough power to annihilate earth when he fought OF Thor, and Bor wasn't at full strength since he was on Earth, Bor at best would be a high trans or low Sky-father in terms of Strength and power
Bor had enough power to blown up the Earth and he wasn't at full power? When was it stated that Asgardian power fluctuates like Mephisto (in his realm vs. other places)?
Don't even know why your comparing Odin vs. Hulk, when he has magically abilities, that Bor himself might not have. I believe Odin himself created Asgard, did he not?
Originally posted by the Darkone
Sky Fathers are on another level of power period, Skyfathers dont need feats of strength to beat the any version of Hulk, Thor what so ever, They are just pure power. Thor is stronger than his Father Odin? Yes, But Odin still manhandle his son Thor like a rag doll. Sky-fathers cause shock waves that is felt through out the multiverse, let me know when Hulk can do that. Let me know when Hulk battles someone that near by planets explode, sun explodes and reignite suns due too the shock waves of the battles, like when Odin fought Forsung. Odin grew to 1000 ft and went head up with Sutrur, I like the Hulk but there is a limit of nut swinging you can go.Bor had enough power to annihilate earth when he fought OF Thor, and Bor wasn't at full strength since he was on Earth, Bor at best would be a high trans or low Sky-father in terms of Strength and power
Your post don't make one bit of sense. There are numerous of skyfathers that don't have those fts. Hell, Odin is about one of the only skyfather that does. Shaking different planes ain't crap anyways. Hulk shook multiple of dimensions during a fist scuffle...Hulk and She Rulk destroyed multiple of planets just by colliding / punching at each other. Hulk and Skaar shook earth and caused planetary destruction while fist cutting. No skyfather minus Odin has these fts unless you go back to the 1970 or 80's. We don't even have to bring up his other fts like tanking without even flinching attacks from three Heralds and 2 of those Heralds have high Herald strength and one of those Heralds has elite Herald energy blast. Hulk stood in one freaking spot and didn't even notice their attacks.
So again i ask, what ft of strength does Hulk need to be classified as a skyfather physically? What in the hell is the guy missing?
Can a reasonable, thinking logical person answer this question.
Originally posted by the Darkonewhere would you have placed the Bor that fought OF THor then? Mid Trans or so?Bor had enough power to annihilate earth when he fought OF Thor, and Bor wasn't at full strength since he was on Earth, Bor at best would be a high trans or low Sky-father in terms of Strength and power
trying to say someone has 'skyfather strength' is moronic as a skyfather rarely exhibits strength feats. could they? of course. re: odin punking thor like a child, zeus crushing hulk without effort. their abilities can manifest however they choose, but someone is not a skyfather because they are strong. they are skyfather level because they have the powerset. a skyfather is NOT one-dimensional and to try and reduce to one to such is the height of idiocy.
bor wins this, handily.
Originally posted by vansonbee
Shock waves by Odin fight, were done by energy release and here we are discussing physical capabilities that are shown on panel.Bor had enough power to blown up the Earth and he wasn't at full power? When was it stated that Asgardian power fluctuates like Mephisto (in his realm vs. other places)?
Don't even know why your comparing Odin vs. Hulk, when he has magically abilities, that Bor himself might not have. I believe Odin himself created Asgard, did he not?
Bor has arcane magic, he binded and banished bashir warriors or whatever they are called, but is he on Odin most likely not since Odin grew in power of the centuries.Bor taught Odin magic duh! Bor was more a force of physical nature, than magic. Odin enhance Asgard, Bor was the foundation. You are missing the point, Bor is still above beings like Hulk/Nul overall, Bor by all accounts is sky-father level in power, for it was stated he could rival Odin in power, this assuming if they would battle in Asgard, where both would be at full strength.
Originally posted by leonidas
trying to say someone has 'skyfather strength' is moronic as a skyfather rarely exhibits strength feats. could they? of course. re: odin punking thor like a child, zeus crushing hulk without effort. their abilities can manifest however they choose, but someone is not a skyfather because they are strong. they are skyfather level because they have the powerset. a skyfather is NOT one-dimensional and to try and reduce to one to such is the height of idiocy.bor wins this, handily.
I agree completely with you. 👆
Originally posted by Damborgson
where would you have placed the Bor that fought OF THor then? Mid Trans or so?
Bor would be more high trans border line low sky father while on Earth, in Asagard could mid sky father,imo of course. Bor is still more powerful than Nul, period!
Truth be told, they need to some stories on Bor and Buri, show us where they are at in power compare to Odin and the Odin-force.