Wonderwoman vs Thor (Hand to Hand)

Started by Rage.Of.Olympus8 pages

Originally posted by abhilegend
Ok rage.of.doucheness, you turned a completely harmless fun post to vent your frustration upon, so to hell with it.

What is the meaning of using two pointless scans of thor fighting durok means? We both know he nearly died from fighting him and I didn't find any evidence that surfer only a spark of life in thor. If you found a proof, I would gladly concede. But till then surfer completely healed thor as seen here

http://i49.tinypic.com/2ymadtc.jpg

Like I said thor is a big pansy for being worn out by fodder giants and trolls.

What? At no point was it mentioned that thor fought Loki as a peer and if some giants can wear thor out from class 100 level to Loki level of strength, he has a shitty stamina.

Also, loki didn't struck thor with that piece of masonry. He just struck masonry and debris flew out and struck him down. That's not like someone using an object to hit a character. He was KTFO, be it for one page or ten pages. The next time he wakes up its stated he was rising from unconsciousness. Also him getting worn down by trolls and getting KTFO by flying part of masonry is still a horrendous low showing. I don't have any interest in the rest of your rant and thanks for sucking out all the fun from this thread.

Okay.

So, you agree that Thor was down momentarily out of exhaustion? Okay good, although I'm not sure why there was any confusion as Loki outright states that Thor falls from battle weariness.

So this isn't about a harmless little scan but you looking for an embarrassing scene for Thor. I'm glad we've cleared up your petty and childlike motivations here.

I thought you said that you've read this arc? If you need me to explain to you why Loki was a peer to Thor in his condition at the time, then you obviously haven't.

So your argument now hinges on Thor having shitty stamina because Surfer healed him to full? Okay, if that's what you think that's fine I guess.

Me personally? Well I read the arc and saw Thor endure Hela, Loki, and Durok back to back without faltering so I find it hard to believe that Thor if he was healed to 100% would suddenly be tired from fighting Giants and such for two pages. I think it's much more likely that Thor's previous trials were taking its toll and Loki's plan for Durok to outlast him (Hence the "useless" scans) was paying off.

Yes, clearly a bunch of trolls and Storm Giants that he facerolled fairly easily wore him out more successfully than going toe to toe with Loki and Durok back to back. Do you even listen to yourself?

Also, where does it say unconsciousness?
http://i48.tinypic.com/qqe4qg.jpg

Whatever man, think what you want. I've presented the counter evidence to your argument, people can now draw their own conclusions. I'm of the stance that the obvious and logical conclusion is that Thor was finally tired from all his previous trials and that's why he momentarily faltered. Including the ones with Durok etc., and Surfer didn't heal him to 100% but simply revived him.

Oh, while browsing I came across these little gems:
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How many times does it need to be hit over your head that Loki had all but exhausted Thor through all his trials? He had literally JUST returned to Asgard and was worn out. Which sounds a lot like Loki's plan to wear Thor out and have Durok outlast him:
http://i48.tinypic.com/29vxjrr.jpg
http://i48.tinypic.com/19mixg.jpg

But yea, I'm sure Surfer healed Thor to a 100%, clearly indicated by the "gasp of returning life" and the request to lean on him:
http://i49.tinypic.com/2ymadtc.jpg

The entire arc is a testament to Thor's ridiculous stamina, doing that much battle back to back for like 5 issues, not some kind of low showing.

But like I said, whatever. Agree to disagree.

Rage is madder right now than most people in the world currently are.

I'm going to throttle your Anus.

I'll just clench and twist.

Then you'll send God angry letters asking him to retcon that out of history.

Originally posted by Silent Master
By now you must have realized that Thor is extremely proficient with weapons and that has always been the case, as seen here when a young Thor easily schools a fellow Asgardian in battle.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/DefeatsAsgardian1.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/DefeatsAsgardian2.jpg

Thor goes on to easily defeat Sif as well.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/DefeatsSif1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/DefeatsSif2.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/DefeatsSif3.jpg
Note: Sif is an incredibly skilled warrior in her own right as seen here when she easily bests Volstagg.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/DefeatsSif4.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/DefeatsSif5.jpg

Yawn more sword fighting. And with a younger Sif at that.

A drop kick to an opponent's face is always fun.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/MangogvsThor15.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/MangogvsThor16.jpg

Congratulations! You have shown your first h2h feat by Thor.

Thor outmaneuvers the Super Skrull with his abilities.
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/ThorvsSuperSkrull10.jpg

Tosses Krato.
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/ThorvsHercules29.jpg

Another! Weaksauce though. The second one is super strength though.


He Does something similar to Hercules.
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/ThorvsHercules34.jpg

More superstrength?

Demonstrates skill when he adds Ulik's weight to his own for a toss.
http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa469/R-O-O/Thor/Ulikskill.jpg

This is a good one. Kudos. So we have are first good feat so far.

Thor darts and weaves between Ulik's blows, then flips him.
http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa469/R-O-O/Thor/Ulikskill2.jpg

decent skill there too. Nothing very impressive though. Most boxers can dart and weave. So Thor shows some basics fighting ability which is some skill.

Thor illustrates his superior skills against Masterson, leading to comments such as "Thor's dodging and weaving like a pro!" and "I can't seem to land a blow on him!".
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ThorvsMastersonThor2.jpg

Well that shows skill too.

The Absorbing Man believed that simply possessing all of Thor's powers made them equals, but he soon learned that was not the case, when Thor outfights him in moments using his superior skill.
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/ThorvsAbsorbingMan19.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/ThorvsAbsorbingMan20.jpg

"How can I fight 'Im? He's everywhere at once!!" is how Crusher Creel describes Thor who beats him down using his incredible fighting skills.
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/ThorvsAbsorbingMan31.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/ThorvsAbsorbingMan32.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/ThorvsAbsorbingMan34.jpg

Crusher Creel isn't a great fighter but nontheless Thor shows some skill.

Thor might brawl like a brick against his peers in strength, but that is because he chooses to. When he truly gets ticked off and uses his skills, the fight gets one sided, even if his opponent is someone as formidable as the Juggernaut.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/JuggernautvsThor6.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/JuggernautvsThor7.jpg

Not impressive, especially against who he's fighting.

Thor once again shows what separates him from other powerhouses when he beats the utter shit out of an amped Loki and Fenris without letting them lay a hand on him.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/RagnarokThor31.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/RagnarokThor32.jpg

Decent showing. Not that great but still good. I first thought of this one when I think of Thor's skill at his best.

The Man Beast was apparently an incredibly skilled individual, possessing the knowledge of every form of combat evolved by a million years, and Thor's fighting prowess still proves to be the superior.
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/DefeatsManBeast2.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/DefeatsManBeast3.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/DefeatsManBeast9.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/DefeatsManBeast10.jpg

Weaksauce. Look at the actual fight. Thor did nothing impressive skill wise, neither did Manbeast. But this scan proves that the combo to ko principle exists in comics. All it takes is one hit.


Even a warrior as fabled as Hercules is impressed by Thor's skills.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/Thorskill.jpg
WTF Dumb attack by Hercules. But still it shows Thor have a little skill.

Thor briefly counters and outmaneuvers Hercules.
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/ThorvsHercules4.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/ThorvsHercules5.jpg

Weaksauce.

Thor uses his skill to defeat Hercules in combat.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/DefeatsHercules1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/DefeatsHercules2.jpg
Note: This might be a different Hercules from the one we are currently familiar with.

Weaksauce.

Captain America himself has described Thor's abilities as such: "He is an expert combatant; having been trained for hundreds of years in the art of war. His understanding of tactics and strategies encompasses the teachings of cultures over several centuries. Thor has shown himself to be proficient as a swordsman and in the use of his enchanted Uru hammer, Mjolnir."
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/Bio6.jpg

Not a h2h feat.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
I didn't look at any of those,
Good because most of them were either garbage or irrelevant (not h2h fighting feats).

LOL at the troll

Hopefully the report box just gets flooded because of h1

Originally posted by Silent Master
LOL at the troll

Trolls don't read entire replies and address each one.
If you disagree with my replies then rebut them.

Showing Thor fighting with weapons is irrelevant.
Posting a lot of scans only fools the weak ass minded people. It's the quality of the feats that matter and not the quantity.

Overall, Thor shows some intermediate h2h ability. He has skill, as shown in the Fernus feat (which I always kept in the back of my mind) but nothing exceptional.

WW is still vastly superior to Thor in skill. That is not to say Thor has no h2h skill, he does.

Originally posted by h1a8
Trolls don't read entire replies and address each one.
If you disagree with my replies then rebut them.

Showing Thor fighting with weapons is irrelevant.
Posting a lot of scans only fools the weak ass minded people. It's the quality of the feats that matter and not the quantity.

Overall, Thor shows some intermediate h2h ability. He has skill, as shown in the Fernus feat (which I always kept in the back of my mind) but nothing exceptional.

WW is still vastly superior to Thor in skill. That is not to say Thor has no h2h skill, he does.

Start posting WW skill feats.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Hopefully the report box just gets flooded because of h1

Not really. If anything Silent was trolling by posting many irrelevant scans and think he will be seen for their sheer number and not quality. I addressed each one. I gave Thor some props on some but most were irrelevant or just weak.

Originally posted by h1a8
Not really. If anything Silent was trolling by posting many irrelevant scans and think he will be seen for their sheer number and not quality. I addressed each one. I gave Thor some props and some but most were irrelevant or just weak.

You asked for skill feats and I posted them.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Start posting WW skill feats.
I don't have any WW comics to post them. So I'll leave that to Abi or another D.C. fan. since they probably have them stacked up. I wish Nvr was still a member. He would own right now.

I do have "Sacrifice" and a few others as I can post scans from that.

But isn't it common knowledge that Diana is more skilled in h2h than Thor?
Should this even be entertained with wasted bandwidth?
It's like trying to prove whether Thor is stronger than Colossus or Thing.
My god!

Originally posted by h1a8
I don't have any WW comics to post them. So I'll leave that to Abi or another D.C. fan. since they probably have them stacked up. I wish Nvr was still a member. He would own right now.

I do have "Sacrifice" and a few others as I can post scans from that.

But isn't it common knowledge that Diana is more skilled in h2h than Thor?
Should this even be entertained with wasted bandwidth?
It's like trying to prove whether Thor is stronger than Colossus or Thing.
My god!

Start backing up your claim regarding WW's skill.

Originally posted by Silent Master
You asked for skill feats and I posted them.

h2h skill feats.
Thor can be skilled for sucking a .... but it would still be irrelevant.

Originally posted by h1a8
h2h skill feats.
Thor can be skilled for sucking a .... but it would still be irrelevant.

Even the scans involving weapons had Thor doing things like blocking or evading attacks, which is relevant to a HTH fight, so most of the scans posted were on point.

Now, Start backing up your claim regarding WW's skill.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Even the scans involving weapons had Thor doing things like blocking or evading attacks, which is relevant to a HTH fight, so most of the scans posted were on point.

Now, Start backing up your claim regarding WW's skill.

No they weren't. Blocking with a sword or using sword technique is called fencing. A professional fencer would get their ass beat by even an amateur boxer.
Evasion does add to h2h skill though. But it's not the same as evading an attack from arm distance, which is less distance, or a kick.

I will try to post something for WW. I just have to find some comics, give me time.
Here's one though. I think Raisen posted another scan earlier.

Originally posted by h1a8
No they weren't. Blocking with a sword or using sword technique is called fencing. A professional fencer would get their ass beat by even an amateur boxer.
Evasion does add to h2h skill though. But it's not the same as evading an attack from arm distance, which is less distance, or a kick.

I will try to post something for WW. I just have to find some comics, give me time.
Here's one though. I think Raisen posted another scan earlier.

Now, Start backing up your claim regarding WW's skill.

Originally posted by h1a8
Not a h2h feat.