Wonderwoman vs Thor (Hand to Hand)

Originally posted by Branlor Swift

Exactly, he ignores some of Thor's feats because Thor's using a weapon, even though they still have Thor blocking and dodging which is relevant to a HTH fight and then posts a character statement as a feat.

His double standards are rather obvious.

If Thor can block and dodge Hulk, he can do the same to WW.

Originally posted by Supra
If Thor can block and dodge Hulk, he can do the same to WW.

Originally posted by Sh3nG L0nG
Except WW has super speed, that might make dodging a tad bit more difficult.

So does Thor and the Hulk.

It's the degree of superspeed that matters, obviously.

Originally posted by Sh3nG L0nG
Except WW has super speed, that might make dodging a tad bit more difficult.

Hulk has also consistenly demonstrated some form of super speed and super reflexes.

@SilentMaster-
I do appreciate the time you took to post those scans. However, none are very impressive; for the most part they are demonstrations of super strenght, and simply show that Thor can dodge and weave. Some examples are pure PIS. For example, human Thor with no super strength tossing what would appear to be an 1,100 lb. bear. That's pure PIS. You must also take into account the skill level and set of the opponent. Some mediocre guys will make C-listers look really bad.

Don't get me wrong; I will lay it out there for future reference that I despise almost everything DC. Feel free to use that against me in the future. However, I ALWAYS try to be unbias.............and Thor has nothing on WW in the hth department or speed department.

Here's WW fighting the JL blindfolded.

I'm well aware of WW's feats, unlike h1a8, I actually have knowledge of both characters.

She has some good feats, problem is that people try and claim that she has A list skill, which isn't even close to being true.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Exactly, he ignores some of Thor's feats because Thor's using a weapon, even though they still have Thor blocking and dodging which is relevant to a HTH fight and then posts a character statement as a feat.

His double standards are rather obvious.

Sure blocking with a sword shows reflexes that's needed in h2h skill. But Diana is far faster than those guys with the swords.

Dodging is relevant (but in a limited fashion) to h2h and can be used. I admitted it, so why bring it up?

It doesn't have to be all h2h feats but evidence. We don't have to accept character's opinions of another character's skill if you don't want to. So choose.

h1a8 needs to start posting WW skill feats.

I'm not the biggest Thor supporter but his fans have backed up their arguments very well.

Saying WW can do something without us actually seeing it doesn't add anything to the discussion.

Originally posted by deathlife
h1a8 needs to start posting WW skill feats.

I'm not the biggest Thor supporter but his fans have backed up their arguments very well.

Saying WW can do something without us actually seeing it doesn't add anything to the discussion.

I've been posting feats.

Originally posted by Raisen
I've been posting feats.

We want h1a8 to post the feats, since he made the claim.

Originally posted by deathlife
h1a8 needs to start posting WW skill feats.

I'm not the biggest Thor supporter but his fans have backed up their arguments very well.

Saying WW can do something without us actually seeing it doesn't add anything to the discussion.

The problem here is most members don't generally have WW comics and most of the scans in the WW respect thread don't work. So it would be very hard to show some more scans. I appreciate those who have posted some though. A good WW fan is needed right now.

Lastly, I'm not claiming Thor has no fighting skill. That's crazy! I'm just saying WW being more skilled than him is common comic book knowledge. Why waste time in that debate just to pick on a poster?

Originally posted by Silent Master
We want h1a8 to post the feats, since he made the claim.

Originally posted by h1a8
This is a debate forum. The truth is the goal, not where it comes from. Anything other than that is clearly trolling. You either believe WW is more skilled or you don't. Trying to slickly pick on posters shows a low maturity level.

You made the claim, so start posting proof.

Originally posted by Silent Master
You made the claim, so start posting proof.

Dude, I'm the Wonder Woman expert around here. She DESTROYS Thor due to her shape shifting abilities.

Originally posted by h1a8
This is a debate forum. The truth is the goal, not where it comes from. Anything other than that is clearly trolling. You either believe WW is more skilled or you don't. Trying to slickly pick on posters shows a low maturity level.

You can't arrive at the truth without evidence.

Otherwise people will disregard what you say.

Diana wins.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/Bio6.jpg

Originally posted by h1a8
Not a h2h feat.

Now, Start backing up your claim regarding WW's skill.

Originally posted by h1a8
http://img541.imageshack.us/img541/7017/sskill.png

I lol'ed.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I lol'ed.

For someone that seems to accept statements as proof of skill, don't you find it odd that he skipped over the scan that stated the following in regards to Thor "in a display of skill and strength that rivals anything seen in Earth's long history."?

Originally posted by -Pr-
You can't arrive at the truth without evidence.

Otherwise people will disregard what you say.

So you totally misunderstand my post.
Basically I'm saying it doesn't matter which poster provides the evidence. The goal is to have the evidence to arrive at the truth.

Originally posted by Silent Master
For someone that seems to accept statements as proof of skill, don't you find it odd that he skipped over the scan that stated the following in regards to Thor "in a display of skill and strength that rivals anything seen in Earth's long history."?