Originally posted by -Pr-
It was proven. It's a brand new universe with a brand new timeline. The Barry Allen in JLA and in the Flash book never fought Prime, as the Crises never happened in the new DCU.
its a new universe but there powers seem the same, we can see that the superman is stronger than the ordinary one but as far as flash he seems to me even faster than the ordinary one
Originally posted by red_turtle
its a new universe but there powers seem the same, we can see that the superman is stronger than the ordinary one but as far as flash he seems to me even faster than the ordinary one
Superman isn't stronger than the one from before the reboot, as he hasn't done anything the other one couldn't have done. You have to remember, JLA is set about five years before the current DC timeline, so they're not going to be 100% as powerful as they are in their current books. Hal is inexperienced, Clark is young and cocky etc.
Originally posted by -Pr-
Superman isn't stronger than the one from before the reboot, as he hasn't done anything the other one couldn't have done. You have to remember, JLA is set about five years before the current DC timeline, so they're not going to be 100% as powerful as they are in their current books. Hal is inexperienced, Clark is young and cocky etc.
you said yourself its a differentuniverse so its not the same characters , its not the same clark its a different universe clark that seems to be more powerful and finally gotsome testicles to actually fight and hurt someone , he seems to be more powerful than the ordinary one at least 3 times
Originally posted by red_turtle
you said yourself its a differentuniverse so its not the same characters , its not the same clark its a different universe clark that seems to be more powerful and finally gotsome testicles to actually fight and hurt someone , he seems to be more powerful than the ordinary one at least 3 times
based on what? he's strong, yes, he's fast, yes, but we don't know how much. He's at least a herald, i'd say. I would love for the new Superman to be as powerful if not more powerful than the one who came before. That's actually what I'm hoping for, but so far I don't think he's shown us that he's on that level.
He has been very impressive though; as a Superman fan I'm ecstatic that after the last two, three years with hack writers, we finally have a Superman reminiscent of the Busiek or Loeb days.
Originally posted by -Pr-
based on what? he's strong, yes, he's fast, yes, but we don't know how much. He's at least a herald, i'd say. I would love for the new Superman to be as powerful if not more powerful than the one who came before. That's actually what I'm hoping for, but so far I don't think he's shown us that he's on that level.He has been very impressive though; as a Superman fan I'm ecstatic that after the last two, three years with hack writers, we finally have a Superman reminiscent of the Busiek or Loeb days.
he was able to shatter and break everything the green lantern had like nothing that above ordinary superman, also he sent flash to the ropes with a finger flick? he is above averege superman in my opinion by those feats, he is no PC superman i tell you that but i think he can take on prime
Originally posted by red_turtle
he was able to shatter and break everything the green lantern had like nothing that above ordinary superman, also he sent flash to the ropes with a finger flick? he is above averege superman in my opinion by those feats, he is no PC superman i tell you that but i think he can take on prime
he's broken lantern constructs before (or at least, the other superman did), and you have to remember that this is a Hal Jordan starting out. It IS a very impressive feat no doubt, but I don't think it's enough until we see more of Hal Jordan himself.
Flash has human durability, and he has flicked people before (the other Superman anyway).
I'm not saying it's not impressive, just that it's not something so completely new to Superman. It's not a bad thing that he hadn't hit that level yet; Pre reboot Superman was stupidly powerful in the hands of the right writers.
Prime for most of the reasons already stated.
Keep in mind these are heroes all within their first year or so of being active. Since Hal Jordan currently is more or less the same Hal from the prior universe, Superman in the pages of JLA showing him up doesn't mean he'd take current Hal as easily. Of course, "current" Superman is likely a good deal more experienced and powerful than JLA Superman and obviously Action Comics Superman.
Originally posted by -Pr-
he's broken lantern constructs before (or at least, the other superman did), and you have to remember that this is a Hal Jordan starting out. It IS a very impressive feat no doubt, but I don't think it's enough until we see more of Hal Jordan himself.Flash has human durability, and he has flicked people before (the other Superman anyway).
I'm not saying it's not impressive, just that it's not something so completely new to Superman. It's not a bad thing that he hadn't hit that level yet; Pre reboot Superman was stupidly powerful in the hands of the right writers.
I agree, for all we know, this superman is still learning how much to hold back. So far he has shown less restraint and hasn't really done anything the old superman couldn't duplicate.
Originally posted by Zack Fair
It is a nice change of pace.
It is, but at the same time you can already see the difference between Action Superman and JL Superman. It's subtle, but it's there. I have every confidence that Morrison will handle his development properly, as Johns will be largely skipping over it.