so... In places like Minnesota, if the delegates aren't assigned based on the popular vote, why do they vote in the first place?
also, I find it quite funny that when these weird delegate rules are being manipulated such that Paul is on the losing end, Mariuzu posts a series of videos accusing people of electoral fraud, however, when Paul is there beneficiary, there are no such complaints.
Originally posted by inimalist
so... In places like Minnesota, if the delegates aren't assigned based on the popular vote, why do they vote in the first place?also, I find it quite funny that when these weird delegate rules are being manipulated such that Paul is on the losing end, Mariuzu posts a series of videos accusing people of electoral fraud, however, when Paul is there beneficiary, there are no such complaints.
Apparently almost no one knew about it and/or it had never been so much of an issue before.
Strictly speaking Paul's disenfranchisement of these people is entirely legal so it isn't fraud. It is ironic, though. Also I suspect Mariuzu believes this is what the people really want or that the only reason Paul didn't get 50% of the vote was because of fraud.
Originally posted by inimalistIts fruad of his overwhelming supporters abiding by the rules that apply?
so... In places like Minnesota, if the delegates aren't assigned based on the popular vote, why do they vote in the first place?also, I find it quite funny that when these weird delegate rules are being manipulated such that Paul is on the losing end, Mariuzu posts a series of videos accusing people of electoral fraud, however, when Paul is there beneficiary, there are no such complaints.
Its not fraud to disobey the rules by the committee? haermm
Too funny.
you're saying Paul is benefiting from legal irregularities in the delegate system whereas some of the things that affected him were illegal or failed to follow regular guidelines.
My point is that such irregularities are pretty much idiotic in the first place, and it is rather silly to be happy only for the ones that benefit you.
You might be right, it may not be fraud. It certainly can't be called democracy.
Originally posted by Mairuzu
You're saying that he has enough dedicated supporters to become delegates is fraud when you compare it to actually disobeying the rules?What irregularities are you referring to?
Paul earning 27% of the vote but 83% of the delegates.
This isn't even some "first-past-the-post" nonsense, it is just straight up weird.
What I'm saying is that you only care about rules and democracy and the people when it supports your candidate. You don't think 73% of the people of Minnesota are being represented here, do you?
Originally posted by inimalist
Paul earning 27% of the vote but 83% of the delegates.This isn't even some "first-past-the-post" nonsense, it is just straight up weird.
What I'm saying is that you only care about rules and democracy and the people when it supports your candidate. You don't think 73% of the people of Minnesota are being represented here, do you?
Lol, you thinking its weird doesn't really mean anything.
Delegates are the name of the game and he's been focusing on delegates since the beginning of the race. He's not disobeying any rules and following them as they are applied unlike the real fraud going on which constist solely on not following the rules that apply.
What else should i care about besides the rules? 73%? Where are you even getting this number from? Did you mean 83? As if the popular vote turn out constist of every single person living in that state 😛 This is why there is a delegate process.
Originally posted by Mairuzu
Lol, you thinking its weird doesn't really mean anything.Delegates are the name of the game and he's been focusing on delegates since the beginning of the race. He's not disobeying any rules and following them as they are applied unlike the real fraud going on which constist solely on not following the rules that apply.
What else should i care about besides the rules? 73%? Where are you even getting this number from? Did you mean 83? As if the popular vote turn out constist of every single person living in that state 😛 This is why there is a delegate process.
so, in your mind, given Paul scoring between 5-30% of the popular vote in most states (did he break 30 anywhere?), it is totally in line with democratic principles that, against 70-95% of the voting public's wishes, he becomes the nominee?
the delegate process seems to be an institutionalized form of voter suppression.