Originally posted by wildernesssThat was mortal Hercules in Contest of Champions II.
if punching logan into the ground or orbit was an option, hercules would have done that during contest of champions 2. not to mention other class
100 + characters who are strong enough but not fast enough to connect with a punch capable of that.
Originally posted by leonidasI'm waiting to see if srankmissingnin's rules of Wolverithmetics suggest that Wolverine takes down both Thanos and Gladiator in strict H2H melee. One superstrong guy, no matter how superstrong, seems so helpless against Wolverine, why would adding another one make a difference? Those foot-long claws, man. There's more than enough for each superstrong foe, amirite?
thanos really never demonstrated a healing factor recently that i'm aware of.... he's been cut and the wounds never healed in any 'healing factor-esque' way. i suppose he may have a slight one, but i wouldn't think it would be enough to really factor into any of his fights--like galdiator was said to have a slight one. so, now, logan beats thanos as well in straight h2h.....?this.... is getting outta hand. i should have included logan in my ultimate kmc battle thread. 😐
I dunno, maybe to srankmissingnin, it doesn't make a difference. Maybe he thinks Wolverine would beat both Thanos and Gladiator. I wait with baited breath for his answer.
Originally posted by Silent Master
So, a cl 100 needs to have superspeed in order to punch people into orbit?
did I say that? I said his punching power is inconclusive with superspeed turned off.
a class 100 + doesn't need superspeed to punch logan into orbit.
however, it's unlikely they will connect with a punch capable of that unless they are faster than logan.
Originally posted by wildernesss
did I say that? I said his punching power is inconclusive with superspeed turned off.a class 100 + doesn't need superspeed to punch logan into orbit.
however, it's unlikely they will connect with a punch capable of that unless they are faster than logan.
So, Gladiator is strong enough to punch Logan into orbit?
Originally posted by Silent Master
So, Gladiator is strong enough to punch Logan into orbit?
potentially yes, but his punching power remains reduced & inconclusive with his superspeed turned off. likewise, this stipulation renders him slower than logan which in turn even further reduces the probability that he could even land a punch of this nature.
it's very likely that gladiator would be so thrown off by his superspeed being erased that his timing would be even FURTHER thrown off
during the fight. he's simply not experienced with that tempo of combat speed.
Originally posted by wildernesss
potentially yes, but his punching power remains reduced & inconclusive with his superspeed turned off. likewise, this stipulation renders him slower than logan which in turn even further reduces the probability that he could even land a punch of this nature.it's very likely that gladiator would be so thrown off by his superspeed being erased that his timing would be even FURTHER thrown off
during the fight. he's simply not experienced with that tempo of combat speed.
How did you come to the conclusion that Logan would be faster?
Generally when I hear that superspeed has been taken away for the context of a kmc battle I assume that they're at least given enough speed to contend with their opponent. Since generally Gladiator has super speed, wouldn't it to be safe to assume he has the same speed as Wolverine for the sake of this match?
Originally posted by Blight
Generally when I hear that superspeed has been taken away for the context of a kmc battle I assume that they're at least given enough speed to contend with their opponent. Since generally Gladiator has super speed, wouldn't it to be safe to assume he has the same speed as Wolverine for the sake of this match?
Correct. At least thats how I see it. For this thread Gladiator isn't depowered all the way to human levels speedwise.
even if gladiator's speed was reduced to logan's level or slightly below, it would have epic consequences regarding his coordination, timing, reflexes, etc. he hasn't had the experience fighting at that rate of speed,especially against an opponent who only needs one or two swipes of his claws to potentially end the fight. gladiator's nervous system & timing is conditioned for fighting at a certain tempo without restraint; without it, he would essentially be reduced to crude brawling against an opponent who is arguably one of (if not the best) fighters in the marvel universe. both in terms of skill & combat speed.
Originally posted by wildernesss
even if gladiator's speed was reduced to logan's level or slightly below, it would have epic consequences regarding his coordination, timing, reflexes, etc. he hasn't had the experience fighting at that rate of speed,especially against an opponent who only needs one or two swipes of his claws to potentially end the fight. gladiator's nervous system & timing is conditioned for fighting at a certain tempo without restraint; without it, he would essentially be reduced to crude brawling against an opponent who is arguably one of (if not the best) fighters in the marvel universe. both in terms of skill & combat speed.
Logan won't be ending this fight with only 1 or 2 swipes. Swipes will not be that effective vs. Glad. Logan will have to resort to strictly thrust type attacks like he did in Annialators and even that 1 stab wound he managed to inflict healed instantly.
Glad still has superhuman strength and stamina. If he connects (even while Logan is blocking) it's going to be a devastating blow.
The concussive force may bfr him.