Thor vs Gladiator

Originally posted by quanchi112
Masterson used his hammer and the real Thor lacks Gladiator's punching power so what's your point ?

The fights against Gladiator always show his hammer being the deciding factor. Without his hammer he was ko'd though it did have something to do with the reverting bakc to human form.

Mike Tyson isn't physically stronger than Ronnie Coleman but can hit harder. LOL. It's not that crazy of a concept. Bullets have pierced his skin before. That has nothing to do with how the fight ended.

Quan...you are reaching. Look at the scan.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/367/50212917oa1.jpg/

Gladiator could have put him in the mount and pounded him into submission if he wanted to. This was a non-fight and Masterson won due to plot.

Originally posted by carver9
Quan...you are reaching. Look at the scan.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/367/50212917oa1.jpg/

Gladiator could have put him in the mount and pounded him into submission if he wanted to. This was a non-fight and Masterson won due to plot.

Originally posted by carver9
Quan...you are reaching. Look at the scan.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/367/50212917oa1.jpg/

Gladiator could have put him in the mount and pounded him into submission if he wanted to. This was a non-fight and Masterson won due to plot.

A win is a win, when you fighting there are no rules. Protect yourself at all times, it was Gladiator arrogance that caused him to lose!

Originally posted by quanchi112
Masterson used his hammer and the real Thor lacks Gladiator's punching power so what's your point ?

The fights against Gladiator always show his hammer being the deciding factor. Without his hammer he was ko'd though it did have something to do with the reverting bakc to human form.

Mike Tyson isn't physically stronger than Ronnie Coleman but can hit harder. LOL. It's not that crazy of a concept. Bullets have pierced his skin before.

Masterson was shown as a rival and peer in strength, that's all that matters. No he doesn't.

The hammer was the deciding factor in the fact that Thor beats him down with it. Remove it, and certain comics have gone out of their way to show that the outcome would be no different if Thor was pushed. It had everything to do with his human form.

After the claims you've made, that won't fly, you need hard evidence. In comics, elite strong men who rival each other in strength, practically always rival each other in punching power by the way. Unless something else is in play. Unfortunately, Thor's almost certainly bullet proof in modern continuity, and if Wolverine is any indication, Thor at least rivals him in the invulnerability department. Comes out looking better actually.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Masterson was shown as a rival and peer in strength, that's all that matters. No he doesn't.

The hammer was the deciding factor in the fact that Thor beats him down with it. Remove it, and certain comics have gone out of their way to show that the outcome would be no different if Thor was pushed. It had everything to do with his human form.

After the claims you've made, that won't fly, you need hard evidence. In comics, elite strong men who rival each other in strength, practically rival each other in punching power by the way. Unless something else is in play. Unfortunately, Thor's almost certainly bullet proof in modern continuity, and if Wolverine is any indication, Thor at least rivals him in the invulnerability department. Comes out looking better actually.

Using his hammer is entirely different than using his fists. He's even admitted past this fight his reliance on his own hammer. It's a crutch and always will be and threads without it will have Thor at a disadvantage.

Gladiator has punched a planet into smithereens has Thor ? yeah, punching power also shows Gladiator ko him. When Thor goes up against the Hulk minus his hammer he starts getting worked.. His face is broken, scared, and looks dumb. Gladiator wins this. Let it go, Rage.

Thor

Thor wins regardless and truth be told, potential Thor hit's harder than Gladiator!

Originally posted by the Darkone
A win is a win, when you fighting there are no rules. Protect yourself at all times, it was Gladiator arrogance that caused him to lose!

I agree, a win is a win but if Gladiator would have pressed his attack, Masterson would have died.

Originally posted by quanchi112
A rival yes but then again so is the real Thor. Gladiator is still superior in terms of punching power.

Using his hammer is entirely different than using his fists. He's even admitted past this fight his reliance on his own hammer. It's a crutch and always will be and threads without it will have Thor at a disadvantage.

Gladiator has punched a planet into smithereens has Thor ? yeah, punching power also shows Gladiator ko him. When Thor goes up against the Hulk minus his hammer he starts getting worked.. His face is broken, scared, and looks dumb. Gladiator wins this. Let it go, Rage.

You still haven't given me any reason except because.

Depends in what way he uses them. Like Thor said, he doesn't have one hammer, but three when as he put away Mjolnir and knocked the fire demon out with an explosive punch. For the most part, Mjolnir is treated as a substitute for Thor's fists, it makes Mjolnir look like a shitty melee weapon in comparison but it is what it is. Now, I'm confused. You're trying to prove Thor is at a disadvantage without Mjolnir, why would you list a scene that goes out of it's way to prove that Thor is just as formidable without it? He even went so far as to state that the hammer as powerful as it was is just a tool.

No he hasn't but then again neither have a lot of people. Playing the feat game is dangerous, Thor would win this on durability feats and has superior strength feats. If you're referring to the vol. 2 fight, you already know the context. On top of that, Gladiator (Intented to kill) took advantage of a Thor that was preoccupied and was holding back. I'm really not sure why you think going toe to toe with an enraged Bannerless Hulk for an entire issue is somehow a poor showing or somehow reflects negatively on Thor. As a matter of fact, Thor only started to loss when he got distracted. Gladiator wishes he could do that well.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
You still haven't given me any reason except because.

Depends in what way he uses them. Like Thor said, he doesn't have one hammer, but three when as he put away Mjolnir and knocked the fire demon out with an explosive punch. For the most part, Mjolnir is treated as a substitute for Thor's fists, it makes Mjolnir look like a shitty melee weapon in comparison but it is what it is. Now, I'm confused. You're trying to prove Thor is at a disadvantage without Mjolnir, why would you list a scene that goes out of it's way to prove that Thor is just as formidable without it? He even went so far as to state that the hammer as powerful as it was is just a tool.

No he hasn't but then again neither have a lot of people. Playing the feat game is dangerous, Thor would win this on durability feats and has superior strength feats. If you're referring to the vol. 2 fight, you already know the context. On top of that, Gladiator (Intented to kill) took advantage of a Thor that was preoccupied and was holding back. I'm really not sure why you think going toe to toe with an enraged Bannerless Hulk for an entire issue is somehow a poor showing or somehow reflects negatively on Thor. As a matter of fact, Thor only started to loss when he got distracted. Gladiator wishes he could do that well.

Checkmate!

A non-holding back Thor has>>>punching power than Gladiator who is not holding back!

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
You still haven't given me any reason except because.

Depends in what way he uses them. Like Thor said, he doesn't have one hammer, but three when as he put away Mjolnir and knocked the fire demon out with an explosive punch. For the most part, Mjolnir is treated as a substitute for Thor's fists, it makes Mjolnir look like a shitty melee weapon in comparison but it is what it is. Now, I'm confused. You're trying to prove Thor is at a disadvantage without Mjolnir, why would you list a scene that goes out of it's way to prove that Thor is just as formidable without it? He even went so far as to state that the hammer as powerful as it was is just a tool.

No he hasn't but then again neither have a lot of people. Playing the feat game is dangerous, Thor would win this on durability feats and has superior strength feats. If you're referring to the vol. 2 fight, you already know the context. On top of that, Gladiator (Intented to kill) took advantage of a Thor that was preoccupied and was holding back. I'm really not sure why you think going toe to toe with an enraged Bannerless Hulk for an entire issue is somehow a poor showing or somehow reflects negatively on Thor. As a matter of fact, Thor only started to loss when he got distracted. Gladiator wishes he could do that well.

Gladiator wins with the feats game. Destroying a planet with his fists alone kinda sells it. You also agree his durability is greater so why post feats when you yourself don't believe Thor's durability is as good.

Gladiator looked far better against Hulk with his fists initially than Thor did. Gladiator also was ko'd by Thor's hammer not his fists. It's clear Thor doesn't have his hammer in this fight. You agree Gladiator is more durable so just concede already.

With equal speed but no Mjolnir I say this is a Split.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thor didn't use his fists he used his powers in the Durok scene which doesn't pertain to a fist fight thread. Come on, Rage.

Gladiator wins with the feats game. Destroying a planet with his fists alone kinda sells it. You also agree his durability is greater so why post feats when you yourself don't believe Thor's durability is as good.

Gladiator looked far better against Hulk with his fists initially than Thor did. Gladiator also was ko'd by Thor's hammer not his fists. It's clear Thor doesn't have his hammer in this fight. You agree Gladiator is more durable so just concede already.

He didn't just kill Durok, he managed to grab and -temporarily- overpower him. Thor's always been able to kick up a notch in a way I doubt Gladiator can match. Anyways, I'm still really confused why you would bring that scene up looking at your stance, just counterproductive imho.

That's a lie. You think Gladiator has better strength feats than Thor? Haha, where were you during the battle zone? The Gladiator side could have used more Thor lowballing to counteract the lack of feats. He might have, but arguing Thor isn't capable of performing at that level purely with his fists with any amount of certainty is false based on what we've seen. I said Gladiator might have the edge in pure invulnerability, but it's good to know you won't go down this road. Really telling about how Kallark compares to the Odinson.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
He didn't just kill Durok, he managed to grab and -temporarily- overpower him. Thor's always been able to kick up a notch in a way I doubt Gladiator can match. Anyways, I'm still really confused why you would bring that scene up looking at your stance, just counterproductive imho.

That's a lie. You think Gladiator has better strength feats than Thor? Haha, where were you during the battle zone? The Gladiator side could have used more Thor lowballing to counteract the lack of feats. He might have, but arguing Thor isn't capable of performing at that level purely with his fists with any amount of certainty is false based on what we've seen. I said Gladiator might have the edge in pure invulnerability, but it's good to know you won't go down this road. Really telling about how Kallark compares to the Odinson.

I think he has better punching feats aka blowing up the planet. What has Thor done with his fists greater than this feat ? Why not post something or at least tell me before running around talking about turning this into another battlezone.

You admitted he's more durable. I accepted.

Originally posted by quanchi112
His powers defeated him. It was either a godblast or something similar it wasn't a full nelson.

I think he has better punching feats aka blowing up the planet. What has Thor done with his fists greater than this feat ? Why not post something or at least tell me before running around talking about turning this into another battlezone.

You admitted he's more durable. I accepted.

Update your shtick Quan, I'm starting to predict your responses. Thor killed Durok using power far beyond Gladiator's capabilities but before that, he cut loose and was able to hold Durok in place. Something Gladiator wishes he was capable of.

Punching only? I guess you also want to limit this to space cheese etc. Thor/Hercules struck each other across dimensions, closing the dimensional portal with the power to wreck worlds. No need to get nervous Quan, I wasn't going to challenge you to a battle zone, just take deep breaths and the shakes will eventually go away.

I can't say I blame you not wanting to get into it, Thor shits on Gladiator in durability feats, and strength, power, versatility etc. You better pray he never loses Mjolnir for any noticeable amount of time or he'll shit on him in punching showings as well.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Update your shtick Quan, I'm starting to predict your responses. Thor killed Durok using power far beyond Gladiator's capabilities but before that, he cut loose and was able to hold Durok in place. Something Gladiator wishes he was capable of.

Punching only? I guess you also want to limit this to space cheese etc. Thor/Hercules struck each other across dimensions, closing the dimensional portal with the power to wreck worlds. No need to get nervous Quan, I wasn't going to challenge you to a battle zone, just take deep breaths and the shakes will eventually go away.

I can't say I blame you not wanting to get into it, Thor shits on Gladiator in durability feats, and strength, power, versatility etc. You better pray he never loses Mjolnir for any noticeable amount of time or he'll shit on him in punching showings as well.

That isn't as impressive as destroying a planet literally on panel. We also see Gladiator's punches affect Thor pretty effectively just like Thor's hammer does the trick to Gladiator.

Thor has a lot more appearances. I mean wtf. It's like using Superman or the Hulk with the thousands of appearances they have and their own monthly comics how do you expect Gladiator to honestly keep up ? Seriously. Gladiator's feats though fewer are far more impressive in terms of comparison and the planet punching feat.

Rage using hyperbolic statements to help his case in a fist fight isn't something that is safe to do (the Hercules and Thor moment...knocking a planet off course).

If that's the case, Gladiator statements are still far better.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/123/gladjx4.jpg/

Capable of wresting planets and collapsing stars with his bare hands.

Thor beats Glads down hard.

Regarding punching power... i don't think lifting feats equate into punching power. Speed does, Boxers train to be fast. That's why Tyson will hit harder then any world's strongest man. It might come down to durabilty between the two Thor and glads have similiar stregth. The speed and velocity of the punch thrown is whats deadly since they both have the same mass and strength.

So i guess in this fight since you are taking away Gladiators speed. Both have roughly the same amount of mass and strength so i guess it boils down to durability and will power. That's why flash can punch supes assuming he is durable enough to handle it. a lightspeed punch from the flash will beat a stronger lifting spider man punch.

Originally posted by nwg202
Regarding punching power... i don't think lifting feats equate into punching power. Speed does, Boxers train to be fast. That's why Tyson will hit harder then any world's strongest man. It might come down to durabilty between the two Thor and glads have similiar stregth. The speed and velocity of the punch thrown is whats deadly since they both have the same mass and strength.

So i guess in this fight since you are taking away Gladiators speed. Both have roughly the same amount of mass and strength so i guess it boils down to durability and will power. That's why flash can punch supes assuming he is durable enough to handle it. a lightspeed punch from the flash will beat a stronger lifting spider man punch.

OMG! At Gladiator's normal state, he hits about as hard as Thor. Now taking speed away, that makes his strikes waaaaay weaker than Thor!!!

Thor crushes Gladiator to a bloody pulp! 💃