Thor vs Hulk- Brute strength

Started by DarkSaint8513 pages

Well, you DID ask....

All I'm saying, is that WWH went up against the Gamma Corps. Not WBH yet, nor was he getting there like in the fight with Sentry.

And he got beaten down pretty badly, even worse than with Zom. Now these guys...they weren't all that impressive - not Thor level, in any case. One of them was a soldier, trained in H2H. And he broke the Hulk's neck.

This is why I wasn't too keen on the WWH storyline. For all the hype, the Hulk wasn't all that impressive.

World War Hulk's body could take some severe damage and keep on going but how big of a part his healing factor had in that is unclear.

If Thor fights intelligently, he takes Hulk down. He's strong enough to rock him, durable enough to take a punch and skilled enough to dish out the damage almost exclusively. It'll probably be similar to his fight with Juggernaut or Grog except longer.

The Odinson's history of fighting bricks despite being at a serious disadvantage increases his odds greatly, he could just punch it out. Very few characters can trade blows with something like the Destroyer Armor as well as Thor can.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Well, you DID ask....

All I'm saying, is that WWH went up against the Gamma Corps. Not WBH yet, nor was he getting there like in the fight with Sentry.

And he got beaten down pretty badly, even worse than with Zom. Now these guys...they weren't all that impressive - not Thor level, in any case. One of them was a soldier, trained in H2H. And he broke the Hulk's neck.

This is why I wasn't too keen on the WWH storyline. For all the hype, the Hulk wasn't all that impressive.

Hulk was holding back...but who cares....I respect your opinion

Originally posted by TheHulk
you are stating th obvious but han again cap America actually beat him once h2h in a friendly spar once but I can't remember the details....

Probably because it never happened.
Originally posted by h1a8
What feats does Thor has against punching someone with high durability?

You really have to ask that?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Probably because it never happened.

You really have to ask that?

Dawg I remember it happening but maybe it was non canon

Originally posted by TheHulk
I'm starting to think you actually hate the Hulk in other words Anit-Hulk

Lol, nah, I'm not anti-Hulk. In a phyiscal match, WBH beats everyone hands down, no question.

WWH, on the other hand, wasn't that impressive in physical fisticuffs. He beat who he was supposed to beat (Thing, Colossus etc) and didn't physically beat anyone he shouldn't have before.

Savage Hulk beat Thor without his hammer convincingly.
Green Scar becomes more durable as he amps aswell as stronger and he already starts out on the same level as Thor, it would be more of a contest but it's still Hulk's fight to lose.

Originally posted by TheHulk
Dawg I remember it happening but maybe it was non canon

Unless you're thinking of Thunderstrike's little sparring match with Steve, it probably never happened.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Unless you're thinking of Thunderstrike's little sparring match with Steve, it probably never happened.
*sign* I won't continue on you

Originally posted by The Sorrow
Green Scar becomes more durable as he amps aswell as stronger

I thought it was always his HF that kept him in the fight, look at how the bullets shredded him when Ross went up against WWH

and he already starts out on the same level as Thor,

Does he? Not saying you're wrong, but haven't seen anything of him that suggests he can give OF Thor nightmares, even without Mjolnir.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
[B]I thought it was always his HF that kept him in the fight, look at how the bullets shredded him when Ross went up against WWH

Nope he beat several X-Men with his eyes cut out and no healing factor, also those bullets were Adamantium.

Does he? Not saying you're wrong, but haven't seen anything of him that suggests he can give OF Thor nightmares, even without Mjolnir.

You should read more Hulk then friend. In the past he would have to be enraged to take on the likes of Thor and win but he was upgraded and now starts off on their level.

Despite what people want to believe, neither of these guys are walking away from this. Thor will certainly have the agility to score more hits, while the Hulk's blows when connected would light him up. This battle will end in a brutal and bloody near stalemate.

Anything beyond this, and the Hulk would go World Breaker.

Originally posted by The Sorrow
Nope he beat several X-Men with his eyes cut out and no healing factor, also those bullets were Adamantium.

True, but my point was, his healing factor eventually kicked in, enabling him to win (such as Warpath's knives being popped out of his back, for example).

You should read more Hulk then friend. In the past he would have to be enraged to take on the likes of Thor and win but he was upgraded and now starts off on their level.

But...there's no evidence for this, is there? Unless I missed something. He didn't take on anyone in a physical fight and win that he hasn't before...

Originally posted by Stoic
Despite what people want to believe, neither of these guys are walking away from this. Thor will certainly have the agility to score more hits, while the Hulk's blows when connected would light him up. This battle will end in a brutal and bloody near stalemate.

Agreed. Although I edge it to Thor going all out and ending it as quickly as possible, or going into Warrior Madness mode.

Anything beyond this, and the Hulk would go World Breaker.

By which point, he would lose, under the OP, right? Am still finding my way around this site.

Originally posted by Stoic
Despite what people want to believe, neither of these guys are walking away from this. Thor will certainly have the agility to score more hits, while the Hulk's blows when connected would light him up. This battle will end in a brutal and bloody near stalemate.

Anything beyond this, and the Hulk would go World Breaker.

Kinda how I see it, but Hulk coming out on top because of the amping. However, Thor would in all likelihood begin amping up as well. Damn I would pay to see that.

Bringing up Hulk getting his neck snap during WWH is pointless. Once the nanites was put into his blood stream, he was depowered and appeared grey looking. The nanites decreased his physical durability as well, not just his healing factor. It reverted him back to grey Hulk. This isn't grey Hulk Thor is fighting so no one neck is getting snapped.

Thor wins this after a long fight.

[i]Originally posted by DarkSaint85 True, but my point was, his healing factor eventually kicked in, enabling him to win (such as Warpath's knives being popped out of his back, for example).

Yes it did but as I said he also beat some X-Men without his healing factor, this included in him being stabbed by Adamantium claws. He popped the knives out by flexing, he could have done that without his healing factor.

But...there's no evidence for this, is there? Unless I missed something. He didn't take on anyone in a physical fight and win that he hasn't before...

There's plenty of evidence read any Hulk material since Planet Hulk. What instances are you referring to?

Originally posted by carver9
[B]Bringing up Hulk getting his neck snap during WWH is pointless. Once the nanites was put into his blood stream, he was depowered and appeared grey looking. The nanites decreased his physical durability as well, not just his healing factor. It reverted him back to grey Hulk. This isn't grey Hulk Thor is fighting so no one neck is getting snapped.

Cool, thanks a lot for clearing that up!!!!

Originally posted by The Sorrow
There's plenty of evidence read any Hulk material since Planet Hulk. What instances are you referring to? [/B]

I'm just going by the WWH storyline, as that was what the OP said - so Hulk up until his footsteps started causing earthquakes, but after he beat Skrull-Bolt.

So of his major fights against brick-type people:

Black Bolt: was a Skrull. Considering Deadpool was solo-ing a ship full of them...

Ghost Rider: PIS. How were the Illuminati not innocent?? It was Miek's fault all the time!

Juggernaut: BFR

Hercules: didn't want to fight.

Thor: wasn't present

Iron Man Hulkbuster: PIS (sabotage by those kids)

Zom-Strange: CIS/PIS/Pak's writing. Zom goes up against the Living Tribunal. Now, allied to the Sorceror Supreme (back when it actually mattered), he defeats him with a falling building?

Sentry: OK, he didn't even output the power of one exploding sun, let alone a million. Unless they were tiny, tiny suns.

That's why I'm 'low-balling' WWH, as it were. Afterwards, yes, he became very powerful, and would beat Thor.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I'm just going by the WWH storyline, as that was what the OP said - so Hulk up until his footsteps started causing earthquakes, but after he beat Skrull-Bolt.

So of his major fights against brick-type people:

Black Bolt: was a Skrull. Considering Deadpool was solo-ing a ship full of them...

Ghost Rider: PIS. How were the Illuminati not innocent?? It was Miek's fault all the time!

Juggernaut: BFR

Hercules: didn't want to fight.

Thor: wasn't present

Iron Man Hulkbuster: PIS (sabotage by those kids)

Zom-Strange: CIS/PIS/Pak's writing. Zom goes up against the Living Tribunal. Now, allied to the Sorceror Supreme (back when it actually mattered), he defeats him with a falling building?

Sentry: OK, he didn't even output the power of one exploding sun, let alone a million. Unless they were tiny, tiny suns.

That's why I'm 'low-balling' WWH, as it were. Afterwards, yes, he became very powerful, and would beat Thor.

Wow...so many corrections.

That version of Black Bolt was extremely powerful and he was basically an exact copy of the real deal. Lets not forget he ripped through time and space with a scream and also took a chunk out of the moon the size of Rhode Island. These are fts that the real Black Bolt dont have.

He worked Ghost Rider and you calling it PIS isn't helping your argument.

Juggernaut lost...deal with it. Bfring him was much faster than going slugfest. His goal wasn't to fight Jugs, it was to get Xavier. Juggernaut wasn't the only one that got bfred during that fight.

Hercules also admitted that Hulk could have killed all of them any time he wanted to. Herc knew he was out of his league fighting Hulk.

Its good Thor wasn't present, he would have got worked too.

Ironman prepped for that battle and it was a good fight.

Lol...a building didn't take Zom out...Hulk punch did. You are mixing it up. A building fell on Hulk and some people, Hulk saves them...punch Zom (one punch took him out): Hulk jumps over to him and ground and pound. Hulk won that fight and again, calling it PIS isn't helping your case.

How do you know if Sentry wasn't using the power of a million suns? Are you saying that he wasn't because the Earth didn't explode? It was referenced more than once that if Hulk and Sentry wasn't stopped, the planet would have been destroyed. You cant base things off of collateral damage when its involving Earth. Earth is the Prime planet and it will not get destroyed because of a pissed Hulk or a unleashed Sentry. By looking at the fight, you can kind of tell Sentry had control of his power still because the energy was circling him in a tornado like fashion.

Your post didn't make sense...you might need to edit it.