Thor vs Hulk- Brute strength

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[i]Originally posted by DarkSaint85 I'm just going by the WWH storyline, as that was what the OP said - so Hulk up until his footsteps started causing earthquakes, but after he beat Skrull-Bolt.

So of his major fights against brick-type people:

Black Bolt: was a Skrull. Considering Deadpool was solo-ing a ship full of them...

Ghost Rider: PIS. How were the Illuminati not innocent?? It was Miek's fault all the time!

Juggernaut: BFR

Hercules: didn't want to fight.

Thor: wasn't present

Iron Man Hulkbuster: PIS (sabotage by those kids)

Zom-Strange: CIS/PIS/Pak's writing. Zom goes up against the Living Tribunal. Now, allied to the Sorceror Supreme (back when it actually mattered), he defeats him with a falling building?

Sentry: OK, he didn't even output the power of one exploding sun, let alone a million. Unless they were tiny, tiny suns.

That's why I'm 'low-balling' WWH, as it were. Afterwards, yes, he became very powerful, and would beat Thor.


Blackbolt - He mimicked Blackbolt's powers, not sure of the Deadpool incident but he likely was defeating Skrulls who had no abilities.

Ghost Rider - He fought the host of Ghost Rider and beat him very easily, when the true GR was released he used a hellfire blast which Hulk endured.

Juggernaut - He stopped Juggernaut from gaining momentum and matched him in strength, name me another character who has done this with brute strength...

Hercules - He didn't want to fight but he is still Hercules and he was beat down in three punches.

Thor - He wasn't present but as I said Savage Hulk beat Thor with no hammer

Iron Man - Thor doesn't have the tech Stark does so moot point.

Zom/Strange - It wasn't the full essence of Zom, not sure what relevance the building has.

Sentry - Thor isn't beating Sentry using just his fists and Sentry going all out.

WWH happened four years ago, there's plenty of feats to reference not just this one arc.


That version of Black Bolt was extremely powerful and he was basically an exact copy of the real deal. Lets not forget he ripped through time and space with a scream and also took a chunk out of the moon the size of Rhode Island. These are fts that the real Black Bolt dont have.

Point taken, but I do think they could have tightened the story up a bit better, and removed doubt.


He worked Ghost Rider and you calling it PIS isn't helping your argument.

I guess what I am referring to, was that Ghost Rider and the Hulk were fighting, GR hurts him with the hellfire, then rides off when the Hulk is on the ground (when he was using full GR potential). I called it PIS because GR WAS avenging the innocent (the Illuminati were innocent) but despite being written as being able to defeat the Hulk, he decides to ride off.

Juggernaut lost...deal with it.

Lol, I have. Juggernaut isn't a character I particularly care for.

Bfring him was much faster than going slugfest. His goal wasn't to fight Jugs, it was to get Xavier. Juggernaut wasn't the only one that got bfred during that fight.

My point was that the Hulk didn't defeat him by utilising a physical beatdown. I'm looking for brick-type fights, similar to the setup we have here, and the closest analogue we have is the Juggernaut fight (I know ABC logic doesn't always work, but...).

Lol...a building didn't take Zom out...Hulk punch did. You are mixing it up. A building fell on Hulk and some people, Hulk saves them...punch Zom (one punch took him out): Hulk jumps over to him and ground and pound. Hulk won that fight and again, calling it PIS isn't helping your case.

My bad on the recollection, obviously my memory is not what it once was! Regardless, Zom was fighting the Tribunal earlier, and now, a ground and pound takes him out?

How do you know if Sentry wasn't using the power of a million suns? Are you saying that he wasn't because the Earth didn't explode? It was referenced more than once that if Hulk and Sentry wasn't stopped, the planet would have been destroyed. You cant base things off of collateral damage when its involving Earth. Earth is the Prime planet and it will not get destroyed because of a pissed Hulk or a unleashed Sentry. By looking at the fight, you can kind of tell Sentry had control of his power still because the energy was circling him in a tornado like fashion.

Yep, that's exactly why I said that he wasn't. Controlled or not, a gigawatt is still a gigawatt, and it wasn't being outputted. Sure, the Earth is Prime and it would never get destroyed, but I still understood it as being hyperbole on the Sentry's part.

Your post didn't make sense...you might need to edit it. [/B]

Can you tell I wrote it in a hurry? Lol.

Originally posted by carver9
Its good Thor wasn't present, he would have got worked too.

Nah, if Thor was present, he would have most likely taken Sentry's place as the main opponent. They would have beaten each other to a bloody stalemate.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Nah, if Thor was present, he would have most likely taken Sentry's place as the main opponent. They would have beaten each other to a bloody stalemate.

Four years later, a thread appears on KMC...

Who would win, Sentry or WWH?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Nah, if Thor was present, he would have most likely taken Sentry's place as the main opponent. They would have beaten each other to a bloody stalemate.

Probably but I can't see Thor generating as much power as Sentry did during his fight. Hulk didn't just have to deal with Sentry strength, he was getting blasted and then hit with continuous tornado like energy during their scuffle. It was much more than just a fist fight which would probably have been the only thing Thor would have done when he faced WWH. It would have been a good fight though and I would have preferred Thor over Sentry any day.

Originally posted by carver9
Probably but I can't see Thor generating as much power as Sentry did during his fight. Hulk didn't just have to deal with Sentry strength, he was getting blasted and then hit with continuous tornado like energy during their scuffle. It was much more than just a fist fight which would probably have been the only thing Thor would have done when he faced WWH. It would have been a good fight though and I would have preferred Thor over Sentry any day.
Balls to that!!! I'll put Sentry over Thor even if it means death!!!

BOW DOWN BEFORE THE POWER OF A MILLION EXPODLING SUNS CARVER!!!!!!!!!! 😠

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Nah, if Thor was present, he would have most likely taken Sentry's place as the main opponent. They would have beaten each other to a bloody stalemate.

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Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Nah, if Thor was present, he would have most likely taken Sentry's place as the main opponent. They would have beaten each other to a bloody stalemate.

I that's a high possibility, I wouldn't argue against it, even though I feel Thor is vastly more powerful than Sentry, I could see these two literally destroyed New York City!

If Thor had been present, it would have been a much better finale imo. He'd do better against Hulk than self-harming Sentry.

Originally posted by carver9
Probably but I can't see Thor generating as much power as Sentry did during his fight. Hulk didn't just have to deal with Sentry strength, he was getting blasted and then hit with continuous tornado like energy during their scuffle. It was much more than just a fist fight which would probably have been the only thing Thor would have done when he faced WWH. It would have been a good fight though and I would have preferred Thor over Sentry any day.
You realize Thor can summon storms right? Storms able to in affect one shot Absorbing man.

brute strength is hulk's world...

Originally posted by -Pr-
If Thor had been present, it would have been a much better finale imo. He'd do better against Hulk than self-harming Sentry.
He probably wouldnt have gone full blown emo and let the hulk punch him in the face for the fun of seeing his blood come out either...

Originally posted by iceman24567
You realize Thor can summon storms right? Storms able to in affect one shot Absorbing man.

Thor...summoning storms?

Surely you jest!

Carver knows his favorite character better than anybody.

I know that Thor can summon storms. Can someone post Thor most powerful recent, year 2000 and up best storm ft. Nothing classic...his best RECENT storm ft. I want to see if its comparable to Sentry output of power during the Hulk fight.

Originally posted by carver9
I know that Thor can summon storms. Can someone post Thor most powerful recent, year 2000 and up best storm ft. Nothing classic...his best RECENT storm ft. I want to see if its comparable to Sentry output of power during the Hulk fight.

He summoned the winds of a thousand worlds and caused Glory pain who had never experienced it before.

Frankly, it shits on what Sentry unleashed during WWH.

Originally posted by -Pr-
If Thor had been present, it would have been a much better finale imo. He'd do better against Hulk than self-harming Sentry.

At that point in time if Thor were there Pak would've had an obedience disk on him lol.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Nah, if Thor was present, he would have most likely taken Sentry's place as the main opponent. They would have beaten each other to a bloody stalemate.
Thor's never cause the Hulk to revert to his human self. Sorry but Thor isn't the Sentry.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank

He summoned the winds of a thousand worlds and caused Glory pain who had never experienced it before.

Frankly, it shits on what Sentry unleashed during WWH.

I don't know about that...Sentry energy was stated as been the energy of a million exploding suns during his fight against WWH.

Originally posted by carver9
I don't know about that...Sentry energy was stated as been the energy of a million exploding suns during his fight against WWH.

The only time Sentry ever really showed anything close to "exploding sun" power was his fight with Genis-Vell.

Thor's power output damaging a Skyfather+ being is more impressive than what Sentry did in WWH to Hulk.

Originally posted by carver9
I don't know about that...Sentry energy was stated as been the energy of a million exploding suns during his fight against WWH.
Carver it is all hyperbole so relax.