The Asgardian Destroyer vs Depowered Tyrant...

Originally posted by Sundipped
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In the first encounter Big G's Cosmic vision did noticable damage to Tyrant:

But the second time he absorbed it.

If you take into consideration how long Tyrant was in exile + the fact that he was hungry for vengeance, it's not far fetched to say he acquired all these abilities (complete control of his body, energy absorption, master control over tech, etc.) during his conquest of galaxies over those millions of years.

If you ask me, there's nothing Lackey did wrong. Sometimes you have to read between the lines and put 2 & 2 together.

But you are dead wrong...

During the "DP" Tyrant/Galactus fight, the on panel naration clear states that Galactus "forgot" that Tyrant could absorb BSE...

So no, this isnt an ability that Tyrant acquired/developed during his time in exile; he had it the 1st time they fought and Galactus knew it (its either this or the guy who originally wrote Tyrant never intended on having Tyrant possess the ability to absorb Galactus's blasts)...

And that fact alone makes what happened so incredibly ridiculous that I cant accept it as anything other than PIS; High End Cosmics/Major Universal Forces should never ever forget anything...

Especially something as important as the powerset of one your own creations that is hellbent on destroying you...

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder

And that fact alone makes what happened so incredibly ridiculous that I cant accept it as anything other than PIS; High End Cosmics/Major Universal Forces should never ever forget anything...

Especially something as important as the powerset of one your own creations that is hellbent on destroying you...

Yeah well, it happens. Eternity was choked out by the Ancient One. Dr. Strange put Nightmare in a full nelson and he tapped out. High End Cosmics routinely do stupid sh|t/have stupid sh|t happen to them, it's a comic book. 😛

Regarding the "hellbent on destroying" part by his own creation, Lackey insinuated that Galactus knew this day would come and that Tyrant would end him and he was cool with it.

Originally posted by zopzop
Is that why Galactus punked out in their first encounter when Tryant returned from his exile? 🙄

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Punked is not a feat. Galactus would have stomped Tyrant when they first fought if it wasn't for Tyrant absorbing him.

Originally posted by h1a8
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Punked is not a feat. Galactus would have stomped Tyrant when they first fought if it wasn't for Tyrant absorbing him.

Punked is a feat when the person being punked (the punkee) is enraged and looking for his property and you make him back down and walk away with his tail between his legs and all the while this is being witnessed by someone who calls the "punkee" (person being punked) on it.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
But you are dead wrong...

During the "DP" Tyrant/Galactus fight, the on panel naration clear states that Galactus "forgot" that Tyrant could absorb BSE...

So no, this isnt an ability that Tyrant acquired/developed during his time in exile; he had it the 1st time they fought and Galactus knew it (its either this or the guy who originally wrote Tyrant never intended on having Tyrant possess the ability to absorb Galactus's blasts)...

And that fact alone makes what happened so incredibly ridiculous that I cant accept it as anything other than PIS; High End Cosmics/Major Universal Forces should never ever forget anything...

Especially something as important as the powerset of one your own creations that is hellbent on destroying you...

The complete mastery of his body and mastery of tech could have possibly been acquired thru time. About the absorption, it's really just a conflict of what different writers are trying to potray. The narration did say Big G forgot but If Tyrant did in fact have this ability before, then how in the world could he get depowered in the first place? I'll attribute it to not having total control of this ability first time around or like you said, the first writer never meant for Tyrant to posess this ability. Add this to the list of inconsistancies in comics.

Asgardian Destroyer wins, with ease.

Originally posted by cdtm
Asgardian Destroyer wins, with ease.

How does it win with ease, or at all?

By being more powerful.

Originally posted by cdtm
By being more powerful.

But that's arguable though. Thor by his lonesome + Mjolnir inside the Destroyer Armor isn't beating Tryant. Stormbreaker bounced harmlessly off him, so Mjolnir isn't even a factor in this fight. That just leaves Thor inside the Destroyer Armor. I wish him the best of luck.

Originally posted by cdtm
By being more powerful.

What makes you come to that conclusion? Tyrant is quite powerful as well, and never once did we see him in trouble against anyone less than Galactus.

Thanos did better against Tyrant than he did against Odin. At least, he actually hurt Tyrant a few times.

And AD is supposed to have power rivaling skyfathers. Odin Force Thor seemed certain it could kill him...

Originally posted by cdtm
Thanos did better against Tyrant than he did against Odin. At least, he actually hurt Tyrant a few times.

Thanos had 6 issues of prep time (Cosmic Powers 1-6) and an amp (the Power Orb).

Originally posted by zopzop
But that's arguable though. Thor by his lonesome + Mjolnir inside the Destroyer Armor isn't beating Tryant. Stormbreaker bounced harmlessly off him, so Mjolnir isn't even a factor in this fight. That just leaves Thor inside the Destroyer Armor. I wish him the best of luck.

Stormbreaker may have bounced off of Tyrant, but Stormbreaker was being thrown by Bill; The Destroyer by default is much stronger than Bill is and will be able to throw Mjolnir with much more force than Bill could (imagine the difference between a normal human and Captain America throwing an iron ball at a thick window; the iron ball is strong enough to shatter the window, but only if enough force is being put behind it)...

In addition, Mjolnir can still absorb, amp, and redirect a ridiculous amount of energy, can be used to fire a Godblast and/or Anti-Force, or summon up a Cosmic Storm to use against Tyrant; Mjolnir is far from useless in this fight as a result...

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Stormbreaker may have bounced off of Tyrant, but Stormbreaker was being thrown by Bill; The Destroyer by default is much stronger than Bill is and will be able to throw Mjolnir with much more force than Bill could (imagine the difference between a normal human and Captain America throwing an iron ball at a thick window; the iron ball is strong enough to shatter the window, but only if enough force is being put behind it)...

In addition, Mjolnir can still absorb, amp, and redirect a ridiculous amount of energy, can be used to fire a Godblast and/or Anti-Force, or summon up a Cosmic Storm to use against Tyrant; Mjolnir is far from useless in this fight as a result...

😆 Like I said, I wish DA Thor the best of luck, he'll need it.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Stormbreaker may have bounced off of Tyrant, but Stormbreaker was being thrown by Bill; The Destroyer by default is much stronger than Bill is and will be able to throw Mjolnir with much more force than Bill could (imagine the difference between a normal human and Captain America throwing an iron ball at a thick window; the iron ball is strong enough to shatter the window, but only if enough force is being put behind it)...

In addition, Mjolnir can still absorb, amp, and redirect a ridiculous amount of energy, can be used to fire a Godblast and/or Anti-Force, or summon up a Cosmic Storm to use against Tyrant; Mjolnir is far from useless in this fight as a result...

Not to be contrary, but it was evident that Tyrant operated on or above the Sky Father level, based on just how ineffective Stormbreaker was against him. Bill is no AD possessed by Thor, but to have absolutely no effect? Bill's throw can demolish small planets with little trouble, which as we all can imagine, is no small thing/feat. Tyrant's ability to tank the shot was in my opinion a bigger feat than when Zeus no sold Thor's throw way back in the day.

What has me mystified on even enchanted uru is how easily Perrikus cut through Mjolnir, and the Destroyer is composed of the same enchanted substance. This little gap, makes me believe that Tyrant would eventually slag the construct.

Originally posted by Stoic
Not to be contrary, but it was evident that Tyrant operated on or above the Sky Father level, based on just how ineffective Stormbreaker was against him. Bill is no AD possessed by Thor, but to have absolutely no effect? Bill's throw can demolish small planets with little trouble, which as we all can imagine, is no small thing/feat. Tyrant's ability to tank the shot was in my opinion a bigger feat than when Zeus no sold Thor's throw way back in the day.

What has me mystified on even enchanted uru is how easily Perrikus cut through Mjolnir, and the Destroyer is composed of the same enchanted substance. This little gap, makes me believe that Tyrant would eventually slag the construct.

Destroyer is made of an unknown substance thats stronger than Uru or Adamantium...

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Destroyer is made of an unknown substance thats stronger than Uru or Adamantium...

True, but Thor decapitated a Desak powered Destroyer with one throw. Thor was however in possession of the Odin Force. Making him in my opinion still less powerful than Tyrant, if we take how well he did against Perrikus while in possession of the Odin Force as well.

When Thor was King Thor he did have the Odin Force right? If not, I have nothing, but my opinion that Tyrant is more powerful than the AD Thor.

The thing about the Desak Powered Destroyer was that it was less durable than normal as they actually merged physically somehow; this brought the Destroyers durability down some...

Originally posted by zopzop
Punked is a feat when the person being punked (the punkee) is enraged and looking for his property and you make him back down and walk away with his tail between his legs and all the while this is being witnessed by someone who calls the "punkee" (person being punked) on it.

Lastly, look up the definition of feat.

Originally posted by h1a8
It is not a feat. It contradicts the actual scene where Galactus was stomping Tyrant hard until Tyrant started absorbing G. G didn't know Tyrant could do that before the so called punking. So even if G was scared a little then it was for no reason. And do you know why G was punked or a little scared? I'll give you a hint: It wasn't because he thought he would lose to Tyrant in a fight. Since you read comics you should know the answer to this.

🙄 Galactus backed down from their first encounter since Tyrant's exile, Galactus had to feed on a world before he confronted Tyrant, the world that Morg found for him was rich in BSE and Galactus said he hadn't felt this powerful in eons, Tyrant confronted Galactus on Galactus' hometurf (his worldship), even after all this Silver Surfer felt Galactus' fear through the rapport they share. All this went down BEFORE their final showdown where Tyrant stomped Galactus.

Lastly, look up the definition of feat.

Definition of FEAT
1: act, deed

2 a : a deed notable especially for courage
2 b : an act or product of skill, endurance, or ingenuity

Standing up to and forcing to back down, the person you lost to previously even when he took you by surprise and was enraged is a damn good feat.