X-Force V.S. The JSA

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
I have no problem with the idea wolverien can't do much damage if any to cs. Because honestly I don't know much about him. But please do not make up utter bs.

Superficial? He cut king Thor so badly his arm became useless. He also cut Thor badly enough to have him clutching his side. Then we have what he recently did to ragnarok, stabbing clear into him deeply. Wolverine also stabb clear through Gladiator as well. He had more then haft a claw in WWH arm while having no leverage. He also stabbed right through Thanos chest. Your example suck hard. very very hard. Superficial my ass.

He cut the skin. He didn't sever his arm off like people like to believe; that happened due to a prolonged contest between Hulk and Thing. Ragnarok is a cyborg clone of Thor (ie. not the real deal). When Wolverine fought the real Thor, he didn't do any lasting damage at all due to the thickness of Thor's Asgardian skin. Thor was in no mortal danger. Wolverine also conceded that WWH was harder to cut than the previous incarnations of Hulk he fought before. He stabbed Gladiator...who wasn't in any danger of dying. I don't even need to mention Thanos. I didn't make up anything at all, yet you felt the need to rush in to presumably defend Logan.

My examples suck? What I said still stands:

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
When Logan nearly kills someone of CS' durability or around it, color me impressed.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
He cut the skin.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
He didn't sever his arm off like people like to believe; that happened due to a prolonged contest between Hulk and Thing.

He slashes Thors arm, and Thor is seen clutching his arm
http://img272.imageshack.us/my.php?image=page0156lp.jpg

Then we see Thor grab for the neckless with just he left hand
http://img107.imageshack.us/my.php?image=page0164hx.jpg

After prolonged fight with Thing and Hulk, the arms gone. The arm was never seen in use after Wolverine slash.
http://img107.imageshack.us/my.php?image=page0171vt.jpg

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Ragnarok is a cyborg clone of Thor (ie. not the real deal).

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
When Wolverine fought the real Thor, he didn't do any lasting damage at all due to the thickness of Thor's Asgardian skin. Thor was in no mortal danger.

Even in this encounter Thor admits in this very scan that his durability will not hold out. He also already clutching his side.

He also admits in the end of the fight that he injured clutching his bleeding side.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Wolverine also conceded that WWH was harder to cut than the previous incarnations of Hulk he fought before.

And? That a complete red herring. You stated Wolverine only did superficial cuts. This is not superficial and this is without leverage
5. http://img461.imageshack.us/img461/4046/wwh4fz3.jpg

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
He stabbed Gladiator...who wasn't in any danger of dying.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I don't even need to mention Thanos.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I didn't make up anything at all, yet you felt the need to rush in to presumably defend Logan.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
My examples suck? What I said still stands:

On side note to everyone else. I am not saying Wolverine can beat these guys nor would he stand a chance against CS. I am merely saying his claws are capable of bypassing these characters durability’s and doing far more than mere superficial damage like some people like to suggest.

Yes he a clone of Thor who powers are based off the real Thor. And Wolverine has been quite capable of doing damage.
http://www.comicbookresources.com/p...=11433&pg=4

Ragnarok isn't on Thor's level, in the end of Civil War he was more or less one shotted (and killed) by Herc with his fake Mjölnir.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
Ragnarok isn't on Thor's level, in the end of Civil War he was more or less one shotted by Herc with his fake Mjölnir.

This is a close fight, with an edge to X-Force due largely to Psylocke.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
I agree he not on the same level. But he is extremely durable and powerful. Also i don't believe he was one shotted at all. he had prolonged fight with a very enraged hercules if I recall correctly. I bet will be seeing some good durability feats of his to come.

As it stands, X-Force wins--thanks solely to Psylocke's mind raping capabilities. The JSA has no defense against that.

Sans her, CS would solo.

Wow this is one of the most successful threads I made. Booyah!!!! (thanks all!)

Citizen steel would probably get carved through by Wolverine.

Not really. He probably won't hurt him.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
Not really. He probably won't hurt him.

Adamantium is a hell of a drug. Wolverine has cut some of the most durable beings in comics. I see no reason on why he couldn't potentially rip through Citizen Steel. Has any tried cutting Steel with a Promethium sword?

Eh, I just don't see it. CS would ko him anyway.

Originally posted by carver9
I see no reason on why he couldn't potentially rip through Citizen Steel.

Common sense.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
Eh, I just don't see it. CS would ko him anyway.

CS is slow as hell...lol.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Common sense.

What does that mean? That doesn't take away from the fact that Wolverine has sliced some durable beings.

Originally posted by carver9
CS is slow as hell...lol.

Yeah, because nobody slow has ever hit Wolverine.

Originally posted by carver9
What does that mean? That doesn't take away from the fact that Wolverine has sliced some durable beings.

It also doesn't mean anything.

I've seduced some beautiful women; it doesn't mean I'm going to have Scarlett Johanssen in my bed any time soon.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Yeah, because nobody slow has ever hit Wolverine.

It also doesn't mean anything.

I've seduced some beautiful women; it doesn't mean I'm going to have Scarlett Johanssen in my bed any time soon.

😂 That's not what I am saying. I'm saying that Wolverine would land more licks and if Wolverine claws could cut him like I think they could then the fight would favor him. This is a guy that sport at cutting people in the eyes.

Wolverine chances of cutting him is high.

He can scratch him, that's it.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
He does much more damage then mere superficial cuts like you have been implying.

Red herring. I did not say this. This has nothing to do with what I said. I said he made it useless, which he did from all appearances.

He slashes Thors arm, and Thor is seen clutching his arm
http://img272.imageshack.us/my.php?image=page0156lp.jpg

Then we see Thor grab for the neckless with just he left hand
http://img107.imageshack.us/my.php?image=page0164hx.jpg

After prolonged fight with Thing and Hulk, the arms gone. The arm was never seen in use after Wolverine slash.
http://img107.imageshack.us/my.php?image=page0171vt.jpg

Yes he a clone of Thor who powers are based off the real Thor. And Wolverine has been quite capable of doing damage.
http://www.comicbookresources.com/prev_img.php?pid=11433&pg=4

I assume you are referring two this scan below.

Even in this encounter Thor admits in this very scan that his durability will not hold out. He also already clutching his side.

He also admits in the end of the fight that he injured clutching his bleeding side.

And? That a complete red herring. You stated Wolverine only did superficial cuts. This is not superficial and this is without leverage
5. http://img461.imageshack.us/img461/4046/wwh4fz3.jpg

Yes he stabbed right through Gladiator shoulder. Him being endanger of dying is completely irrelevant to Wolverine ability to do far more then superficial damage. We were discussing Wolverine claws ability to bypass these character durability. Which is what he did. The fact it was not to a vital area against Gladiator does not ignore the fact it was able to bypass Gladiator durability. Which is far more then mere” superficial cuts” as you so put it.

Yea I bet since it completely contradicts your argument that Wolverine only does superficial damage with his claws against these character durability
http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/4366/thanosbr0.jpg

Yes because what you were saying was utter. Wolverine did far more then superficial damage to these character like you stated.

Yes it sucks balls. And no it doesn’t. Your argument implies the reason Wolverine can’t fatal Wound these character was due to their durability but that false. As I very easily provided above. So yes your argument does suck. And no what you implied does not stand.

On side note to everyone else. I am not saying Wolverine can beat these guys nor would he stand a chance against CS. I am merely saying his claws are capable of bypassing these characters durability’s and doing far more than mere superficial damage like some people like to suggest.

Yeah, all this post basically is "Wolverine is awesome and he can totally maim people".

He cut King Thor's arm and caused him pain. He didn't render his arm useless and trying to attribute his lost arm from an hour long + fight with Hulk/Thing to Wolverine is misleading. Further more, per current depictions, a crazed, out for blood Wolverine only managed to make kitty scratches on Thor's Asgardian skin. He drew blood. That's it. Thor was in no where near terrible shape, much less dying. Eventually, Logan's damage would have added up, but he didn't display anything close to the damage you're trying to spin it as. Lol at trying to use Wolverine cutting up Ragnarok as evidence he'd do the same to Thor, who is far more durable and powerful than a bootleg cybernetic-clone. Gladiator's also less durable than Thor and Hulk, so big whoop. And he still wasn't in grievous shape. I guess I should congratulate Logan for stabbing Thanos who depowered himself with the IG?

So again, when Logan nearly kills someone of durability on par with Citizen Steel, which is imho, portrayed to be > Thor's (who Logan can't deal damage beyond fine cuts and slashes unless he's given time to wear down Thor and his Asgardian skin), I have no reason to believe that Wolverine might be able to possibly cut up Citizen Steel because it sounds right. And considering you entered this thread with hardly any knowledge of the character primarily being discussed at the time, you're in no position to critique anyone, least all of someone who knows who Citizen Steel is and what he's capable.

Originally posted by carver9
😂 That's not what I am saying. I'm saying that Wolverine would land more licks and if Wolverine claws could cut him like I think they could then the fight would favor him. This is a guy that sport at cutting people in the eyes.

Wolverine chances of cutting him is high.

That's a lot of ifs, Carver.

how is it high?