Originally posted by themadsurfer
When the punisher wanted to kill everyone from thunderbolts and he broke up with Elektra. He used a vibranium knife to stab Rulk.
If he did it with a regular knife we both know it was PIS.
He did it back when Loeb was still writing Rulk.
Not exactly PIS, more like some characters have great durability against blunt force, but suck against piercing attacks.
Originally posted by KingD19
Logan slashed him or stabbed him, then Colossus tosses him through the roof and halfway across the island.
He tossed him first, then got cut several times and apparently stabbed, too.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
He did it back when Loeb was still writing Rulk.Not exactly PIS, more like some characters have great durability against blunt force, but suck against piercing attacks.
Rulk is not one of them, those characters that have a huge difference between their durabilities(piercing, energy, blunt) or they have some kind of mutation(like dense flesh but not so strong) or are magical characters. Like regular asgardians and olympians for example.
If he can withstand heave artillery like I've seen he do it, there is no way a regular knife wielded by a regular human can pierce Rulk's skin.
Originally posted by themadsurfer
Rulk is not one of them, those characters that have a huge difference between their durabilities(piercing, energy, blunt) or they have some kind of mutation(like dense flesh but not so strong) or are magical characters. Like regular asgardians and olympians for example.
If he can withstand heave artillery like I've seen he do it, there is no way a regular knife wielded by a regular human can pierce Rulk's skin.
Rulk is one of them.
He's been consistently showed as being weak vs. piercing attacks. Bullets bouncing off him is the only exception and even that might've gotten forgotten, seeing as Loeb apparently had Punisher semi-successfully shot him a few times prior to the stab.
There is more than a dozen showings of him being very susceptible to piercing.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Rulk is one of them.He's been consistently showed as being weak vs. piercing attacks. Bullets bouncing off him is the only exception and even that might've gotten forgotten, seeing as Loeb apparently had Punisher semi-successfully shot him a few times prior to the stab.
There is more than a dozen showings of him being very susceptible to piercing.
So physics don't apply to him at all? being shot with high caliber>>>regular knife wielded by human.
Please leave LOEB out of this.
he can take Thor's and Hulk's punches and he isn't a magical being, so the knife will break instead of cutting his skin.
Originally posted by themadsurfer
So physics don't apply to him at all? being shot with high caliber>>>regular knife wielded by human.
Please leave LOEB out of this.
he can take Thor's and Hulk's punches and he isn't a magical being, so the knife will break instead of cutting his skin.
Wonder Woman can take full force punches from a non holding back Superman. Yet she feels the need to block bullets with her bracers. Blunt Force v Piercing is a real thing in comics, and Rulk is one of it's victims.
Originally posted by KingD19
Wonder Woman can take full force punches from a non holding back Superman. Yet she feels the need to block bullets with her bracers. Blunt Force v Piercing is a real thing in comics, and Rulk is one of it's victims.
DC's magical beings are like this but Rulk is from marvel and in fact a very scientific character, plus he took bullets which is a piercing durability, and It's higher than taking a knife wielded by a human. So I'm comparing piercing with piercing.
Originally posted by themadsurfer
DC's magical beings are like this but Rulk is from marvel and in fact a very scientific character, plus he took bullets which is a piercing durability, and It's higher than taking a knife wielded by a human. So I'm comparing piercing with piercing.
Did you just say that bullets > knives in piercing ability?
Originally posted by KingD19
I thought he dodged that slash shown, then tossed him? Then he came back and did the cutting up and then Wolverine got exorcised? I haven't read that issue in a while.
Looked like he tried to sidestep it or whatever, and managed to do so it was only a glancing hit.
Anyway, here's the more or less correct order of what happened:
1. Colossus sucker punches Hellverine.
2. Hellverine tries to cut Colossus with little to no effect (sparks panel).
3. Colossus pimp slaps him.
4. Colossus grabs him by his throat.
5. Tosses him far away, smashing through the wall and all.
6. Hellverine comes back (possibly via teleportation), cuts the shit out of Piotr, looks like he stabs him in the end.
7. Colossus gets hospitalized, but survives.
Originally posted by themadsurfer
So physics don't apply to him at all? being shot with high caliber>>>regular knife wielded by human.
Please leave LOEB out of this.
he can take Thor's and Hulk's punches and he isn't a magical being, so the knife will break instead of cutting his skin.
Leave physics out of it. We're talking about comics. On Versus Forum, we do distinct blunt force durability from piercing durability - it just makes sense to so, if you look at characters' feats.
Under Loeb, Rulk was at his best and had one of his very few bulletproof showings. Still got easily cut by several characters.
Thor is another example of a poor piercing durability, btw.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Leave physics out of it. We're talking about comics. On Versus Forum, we do distinct blunt force durability from piercing durability - it just makes sense to so, if you look at characters' feats.Under Loeb, Rulk was at his best and had one of his very few bulletproof showings. Still got easily cut by several characters.
Thor is another example of a poor piercing durability, btw.
Of course we separate but sometimes the use of reason is good. We are debating about "simple" durability, his skin can take punishments that if the guy isn't bullet-proof he dies. We aren't talking about some high durability feats that can be debatable like a superhuman with a big sword and with how much force will the blade strike blablabla...
I disagree with you, a regular knife in the hands of a regular human won't cut any kind of Hulk.
And I especially disagree about Thor having a poor piercing durability. If you consider the kind of weapons that hurt him I wouldn't be surprised. Of course he isn't as durable as supes in that kind of durability but far from being weak.
I don't think Pietro(regular) is more durable than Thor in piercing for example.
Originally posted by Silent Master
As you're already sifting the goalposts, I can see where this going and have I have no intention of getting into a semantic argument.