Galactus vs The Celestials...

I really LOVE the last scene in the above scan...

Galactus is blasting 1 Celestial away with eyebeams while pushing another Celestial down with his left hand...

Its early, but its going better than I thought it would for the Big-G...

If he means business, Galactus clearly stands above a lone Celestial; even two judging by the above scan...

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
And then you realize that Thor was knocking around Celestials in Thor 300...

He really wasn't though. The best he did was "knock" down Arishem and that's only because Arishem couldn't even be bothered because the "attack" was so beneath him (mentioned by the narrator). Then Thor hurled the Odinsword through Arishem and again this was allowed by Arishem so he could better analyze the alien nature of the Odinsword. The only other thing he did was chip a Celestial's armor. That's it.

In the Mighty Thor arc, he caused Galactus to cry out in pain as he appeared to fly right through his head.

I'm not ready to feel safe about the comic yet. Especially after one scan of the fight.

But I hope he does well

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Other than Odins psychic attack, Galactus didnt even try to defend himself from the Asgardians...

Yeah, Thor got a good, meaningless, lick in...Galactus simply repaired it and kept on truckin.

At the end of the day despite their efforts, Thor and Odin failed to do any significant harm to Galactus...

I think your opinion of Thor and Odin is too high if you think they could have killed the Big-G...

Surfer was distracting Thor. Otherwise it could have gotten real ugly for Galactus. A Godblast to the face as Odin kept Galactus busy would have ended badly for Galan.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
This is a different writer...

I am willing to bet money that he didnt consider those previous storylines when he wrote this one...

Besides, things are in a constant state of flux; character power levels and portrayals change over time...

This incident is no different...

All we can say with certainty at this point is that Galactus is being protrayed to stand above the Celestials; atleast any single Celestial that is...

But even assuming you're right. These aren't 616 Celestials. These are alternate reality Celestials.

Originally posted by zopzop
But even assuming you're right. These aren't 616 Celestials. These are alternate reality Celestials.

Isnt it concievable that this writer is making nothing distinguishing between them?

Just because they are alternate reality, doesnt automatically make them weaker than 616 Celestials...

Until we are shown something to indicate such, why shouldnt it be assumed that these are anything but the equal of the 616 ones?

Yeah, different writers have written alternate universe characters as stronger or weaker than their 616 versions, but that doesnt mean that this writer is doing the same...

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Isnt it concievable that this writer is making nothing distinguishing between them?

Just because they are alternate reality, doesnt automatically make them weaker than 616 Celestials...

Until we are shown something to indicate such, why shouldnt it be assumed that these are anything but the equal of the 616 ones?

Yeah, different writers have written alternate universe characters as stronger or weaker than their 616 versions, but that doesnt mean that this writer is doing the same...

That would be stupidity above and beyond what Marvel normally dishes out. You realize ONE of those Rogue Celestials ONE SHOTTED TWO Infinity Gauntlet wielders.

So Galactus > Four Celestials > TWO Infinity Gauntlet users? That make any sense? And the writer MUST have known this little fact since those Rogue Celestials are from the Council of Reeds arc where that crap took place.

Originally posted by zopzop
He really wasn't though. The best he did was "knock" down Arishem and that's only because Arishem couldn't even be bothered because the "attack" was so beneath him (mentioned by the narrator). Then Thor hurled the Odinsword through Arishem and again this was allowed by Arishem so he could better analyze the alien nature of the Odinsword. The only other thing he did was chip a Celestial's armor. That's it.

In the Mighty Thor arc, he caused Galactus to cry out in pain as he appeared to fly right through his head.

He didn't fly through his head. Thor almost knocked himself out stunning Galactus. Galactus was pretty much a wall in that arc... people just hurt themselves hitting him...

The main point in this though, was that Thor outperformed 3 Skyfathers. Which is your main qualm with Galactus even having a chance against one Celestial because of the Odin fight. Everything can be named pis from this occurence, but instead, you choose to accept the Odin fight, and run the potential of Galactus doing good through the mud.

The Skyfather vs Celestial thing can be PIS.
The Thor vs Celestials could be PIS.
The Odin vs Galactus could be PIS.
The Galactus vs Celestials could be PIS.

Why is it just Galactus vs Celestials that has to be PIS?

Is the first scan still PIS even if Galactus gets brutally mauled in the next scan?

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
He chipped the Celestials face. Same as Galactus. Dropped Arishem, and took multiple Celestial blasts.
And this was when they weren't distracted in a fight.

He chipped a Celestial, where was it shown to be his face? Even if it was. He did more than "chip" Galactus and Galactus cried out in pain and tilted over. Unless you telling me that "AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA" he let out was because he orgasmed? The Celestial didn't even flinch or cry out.

He "dropped" Arishem because Arishem COULDN'T BE BOTHERED to defend against the "attack" because it was beneath him. I can provide the scan if you like?

And here is the scan :

Originally posted by zopzop
He chipped a Celestial, where was it shown to be his face? Even if it was. He did more than "chip" Galactus and Galactus cried out in pain and tilted over. Unless you telling me that "AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA" he let out was because he orgasmed? The Celestial didn't even flinch or cry out.

He "dropped" Arishem because Arishem COULDN'T BE BOTHERED to defend against the "attack" because it was beneath him. I can provide the scan if you like?

And that's any better than being in a mental battle and getting cheapshotted by a swearing Thor?

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
He hit it in the face. Celestials don't cry out.
And he full force rammed into Galactus. He merely swung at the Celestial

And that's any better than being in a mental battle and getting cheapshotted by a swearing Thor?

Yup and he didn't do jack to the Celestial except chip it's armor, even the pieces he chipped off were small. Galactus cried out in pain and almost tipped over because he was so engrossed in his battle WITH A SINGLE SKYFATHER.

If Surfer wasn't around and it was Odin and Thor vs Galactus, Galactus would be dead now. Three Skyfathers were NOTHING before Arishem.

Originally posted by zopzop
Yup and he didn't do jack to the Celestial except chip it's armor, even the pieces he chipped off were small. Galactus cried out in pain and almost tipped over because he was so engrossed in his battle WITH A SINGLE SKYFATHER.

If Surfer wasn't around and it was Odin and Thor vs Galactus, Galactus would be dead now. Three Skyfathers were NOTHING before Arishem.

Thor swung his hammer at him. Thor rammed into Galactus so hard he almost knocked himself out. Difference.
Plus, we see another Celestial cheapshot Thor right afterwards.

And Thor did better against the CelestialS than 3 Skyfathers did against 1 Celestial
If Odin wasn't around Thor would be dead by now. If Thor wasn't around, Odin would be dead by now. If Asgard wasn't around, Thor and Odin would be dead by now. If Galactus wasn't around, Surfer would be dead by now. If if if
If Surfer wasn't around, Thor would have fully KO'ed himself running into Galactus again because Fraction is a genius.

The Dreaming Celestial is among one of most powerful of the Celestials. It took the 4th host just to contain him the first time. It after all manipulated Galactus' mental/hunger state from afar while Galactus was unaware of it.

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
This post mainly goes into the part you ignored of my post... but I digress

Thor swung his hammer at him. Thor rammed into Galactus so hard he almost knocked himself out. Difference.
Plus, we see another Celestial cheapshot Thor right afterwards.

And Thor did better against the CelestialS than 3 Skyfathers did against 1 Celestial
If Odin wasn't around Thor would be dead by now. If Thor wasn't around, Odin would be dead by now. If Asgard wasn't around, Thor and Odin would be dead by now. If Galactus wasn't around, Surfer would be dead by now. If if if
If Surfer wasn't around, Thor would have fully KO'ed himself running into Galactus again because Fraction is a genius.

Eye H8 EWE 😄

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Thor rammed into Galactus so hard he almost knocked himself out.

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Thor almost knocked himself out stunning Galactus.

Significantly disagree with this part.

Thor was stunned momentarily at best imho. Even after Surfer rammed him with enough force to hurt himself, the Odinson was up and fighting instantly.

Tbf to the Celestials though, I'm not sure ramming an opponent is more powerful than a strike.

Originally posted by zopzop
Eye H8 EWE 😄

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Significantly disagree with this part.

Thor was stunned momentarily at best imho. Even after Surfer rammed him with enough force to hurt himself, the Odinson was up and fighting instantly.

Tbf to the Celestials though, I'm not sure ramming an opponent is more powerful than a strike.

Running full speed into something carries a lot more momentum. Especially when he has a charged attack going as well.

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
I realize he was up afterwards, but he was floating around moaning. Almost knocked out is accurate.
And you can thank Fraction for making Asgardians essentially suicide bombers that just try and knock themselves out

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He grunted and then was immediately rammed by Surfer. Based on the speed of the characters, the entire sequence lasted like what, a handful of seconds? You're going to need more conclusive evidence to support a near knock out imho.

He shrugged off Surfer ramming him into a planet, what, do you think that rejuvenated him? A momentary stun is much more accurate from what I've seen.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Why isn't it ? Do you want to cling to Thor 300 for the rest of your days ?

Because they're alternate reality Celestials, they're more prone to fluctuating power levels than even 616 characters.

If someone runs a train on alternate Galactus' it isn't conclusive evidence that his above the 616 incarnation either.

I realize that the Celestials aren't as highly regarded as they were back then, the recent X-men arc and all this talkative I'm crazy/Angry/Obliterate/Destroy shit including Reed made that obvious enough, but I'm not going to throw out the issue's representation either despite my great dislike for it.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
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He grunted and then was immediately rammed by Surfer. Based on the speed of the characters, the entire sequence lasted like what, a second or two? You're going to need more conclusive evidence to support a near knock out imho.

I mean, he shrugged off Surfer ramming him into a planet, what, do you think that rejuvenated him? A momentary stun is much more accurate from what I've seen.

Because they're alternate reality Celestials, they're more prone to fluctuating power levels than even 616 characters.

If someone runs a train on alternate Galactus' it isn't conclusive evidence that his above the 616 incarnation either.

I realize that the Celestials aren't as highly regarded as they were back then, the recent X-men arc and all this talkative I'm crazy/Angry/Obliterate/Destroy shit including Reed made that obvious enough, but I'm not going to throw out the issue's representation either despite my great dislike for it.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
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He grunted and then was immediately rammed by Surfer. Based on the speed of the characters, the entire sequence lasted like what, a handful of seconds tops? You're going to need more conclusive evidence to support a near knock out imho.

How far away do you think stunned is from almost getting knocked out?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos Imperative. That shows Galactus is a peer to the 616 Celestials. You can ignore everything from here on out while holding your Thor 300 comic up pumping your fists it doesn't matter. Times have changed.

You seem to think I have a problem with Galactus being a peer to the Celestials, while it's true comic history is strongly against that, I don't really care if their standing goes down.

What I do have a problem with is you using this showing to claim his above every Celestial except Scathan. That comment is just straight up stupid if you have any experience with comics.