Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Further more, slashing/piercing damage from Wolverine is tantamount to bullshit armor penetrating statistics in terms of RPGs. It's retarded as shit, but the guy also managed to cut Thanos.
And to further retard the idea he cant cut Colossus! At least keep the retardness consistent.. Otherwise what we're supposed to believe Colossus is more Durable than Hulk, Thor and Thanos?! Wat Bull!
Originally posted by JakeTheBankStraw-manning and putting words in my mouth is cute, but ultimately indicative of the fact you have no real rebuttal or substance to add.
You don't have to be anywhere close to be a multi-versal threat to beat Prime, much less harm him.
okay,Does SBP,s entire existence not add substance to this debate?
Are you even aware of who he has beaten and what he has survived?
And lord thor has done what exactly?Killed alternate version,s of Prof Hulk,Thing,cap america and Wolverine?You think if the celestials showed up,he could down one of them with the OF?
Dude we are talking about a death match here,not a BFR scenario.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Because people like to use Wolverine to justify Prime easily beating King Thor...somehow.Even though Wolverine only cut his skin, was owned by King Thor an instant later, and Prime doesn't have adamantium claws to wound King Thor with...
Eh?seriously?.The guy kidnapped mr mxlpyxlx then burned an "s" into his face.
who needs claws?
Originally posted by Rez
okay,Does SBP,s entire existence not add substance to this debate?
Are you even aware of who he has beaten and what he has survived?
And lord thor has done what exactly?Killed alternate version,s of Prof Hulk,Thing,cap america and Wolverine?You think if the celestials showed up,he could down one of them with the OF?
Dude we are talking about a death match here,not a BFR scenario.
It does, actually, which is why I'm talking about the laundry list of characters who have drawn blood from him and caused him pain on a regular and consistent basis. He's beaten Superboy and killed random Teen Titans and Green Lanterns. His biggest clean victory is that over Sodam Yat as Ion, who's Trans-level as well.
King Thor's eye-beams warped adamantium. And they blew a hole straight through Captain America's shield. 馃槓 If you don't understand the significance of those, I don't know what to tell you...unless you think Prime is more durable than either on the whole. And he still has all of his feats from before he ascended in power to draw upon too. And he managed to one shot kill the Desak Destroyer armor, which is a more impressive victory than beating down Sodam Yat in a competitive fight.
Celestials? What do they have to do with anything? They'd ragestomp Prime, too, so what's your point?
Yeah, it's a death match in which Prime gets killed to death.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
It does, actually, which is why I'm talking about the laundry list of characters who have drawn blood from him and caused him pain on a regular and consistent basis. He's beaten Superboy and killed random Teen Titans and Green Lanterns. His biggest clean victory is that over Sodam Yat as Ion, who's Trans-level as well.King Thor's eye-beams warped adamantium. And they blew a hole straight through Captain America's shield. 馃槓 If you don't understand the significance of those, I don't know what to tell you...unless you think Prime is more durable than either on the whole. And he still has all of his feats from before he ascended in power to draw upon too. And he managed to one shot kill the Desak Destroyer armor, which is a more impressive victory than beating down Sodam Yat in a competitive fight.
Celestials? What do they have to do with anything? They'd ragestomp Prime, too, so what's your point?
Yeah, it's a death match in which Prime gets killed to death.
well what can i say,he blew a hole in cap,s shield and warped adamantium,astonishing.LOL.Dude,SBP took out monarch,which in turn took out that universe,a being who draws power from across the Multiverse.Thor took out desak,he died......is there more to this story?My point regarding the celestials?Odin and thor both went all out on these but never reached Universal threatening levels.we know superboyprime can tank universe destroying Hits,Btw he can also absorb energy 馃槈
Originally posted by Rez
well what can i say,he blew a hole in cap,s shield and warped adamantium,astonishing.LOL.Dude,SBP took out monarch,which in turn took out that universe,a being who draws power from across the Multiverse.Thor took out desak,he died......is there more to this story?My point regarding the celestials?Odin and thor both went all out on these but never reached Universal threatening levels.we know superboyprime can tank universe destroying Hits,Btw he can also absorb energy 馃槈
He didn't "take out" Monarch. Monarch was toying with Prime the whole time, not to mention Prime was amped by the energies of a Guardian. He managed to rupture his suit which caused him to be sent hurtling through the future and surviving that blast, which is easily his single best durability feat and so far beyond anything else he had ever endured it can easily be cited as an outlier feat or even PIS. Again, you either don't get context or are purposefully ignoring it in order to seriously claim Prime is some universal threat.
Yeah, he killed a Desak fueled Destroyer Armor. Desak himself amps off of godly energy and is highly resistant to it and was inhabiting a suit of armor that is practically invincible outside of the Celestial Host bombarding it (and that was when Odin and Co. powered it). And Thor one-shot decapitated it. The point is that Desak was outright designed to fight and kill gods and King Thor still wasted him.
So, you have no point about the Celestials? Gotcha. They'd beat the shit out of Prime, don't kid yourself. Prime tanked a single universal blast and the rest of his history severely contradicts this based on what has harmed him on a regular basis. He "absorbed" Oan energy, sure. Doesn't mean he could absorb the Odin Force.
You have a seriously skewed view on Prime compared to what the comics have shown us.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
He didn't "take out" Monarch. Monarch was toying with Prime the whole time, not to mention Prime was amped by the energies of a Guardian. He managed to rupture his suit which caused him to be sent hurtling through the future and surviving that blast, which is easily his single best durability feat and so far beyond anything else he had ever endured it can easily be cited as an outlier feat or even PIS. Again, you either don't get context or are purposefully ignoring it in order to seriously claim Prime is some universal threat.Yeah, he killed a Desak fueled Destroyer Armor. Desak himself amps off of godly energy and is highly resistant to it and was inhabiting a suit of armor that is practically invincible outside of the Celestial Host bombarding it (and that was when Odin and Co. powered it). And Thor one-shot decapitated it. The point is that Desak was outright designed to fight and kill gods and King Thor still wasted him.
So, you have no point about the Celestials? Gotcha. They'd beat the shit out of Prime, don't kid yourself. Prime tanked a single universal blast and the rest of his history severely contradicts this based on what has harmed him on a regular basis. He "absorbed" Oan energy, sure. Doesn't mean he could absorb the Odin Force.
You have a seriously skewed view on Prime compared to what the comics have shown us.
Really???you show me a scan of KT getting hurt by wolverine and losing an arm against 3 alternate characters who are NOT universal threatening.and you say i have a skewed outlook??
The point about the celestials if you missed it,is even they cant take a Universe destroying attack,yet they can take amped up OF shots like its nothing to them.see where i am going with this???
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
He didn't "take out" Monarch. Monarch was toying with Prime the whole time, not to mention Prime was amped by the energies of a Guardian. He managed to rupture his suit which caused him to be sent hurtling through the future and surviving that blast, which is easily his single best durability feat and so far beyond anything else he had ever endured it can easily be cited as an outlier feat or even PIS. Again, you either don't get context or are purposefully ignoring it in order to seriously claim Prime is some universal threat.Yeah, he killed a Desak fueled Destroyer Armor. Desak himself amps off of godly energy and is highly resistant to it and was inhabiting a suit of armor that is practically invincible outside of the Celestial Host bombarding it (and that was when Odin and Co. powered it). And Thor one-shot decapitated it. The point is that Desak was outright designed to fight and kill gods and King Thor still wasted him.
So, you have no point about the Celestials? Gotcha. They'd beat the shit out of Prime, don't kid yourself. Prime tanked a single universal blast and the rest of his history severely contradicts this based on what has harmed him on a regular basis. He "absorbed" Oan energy, sure. Doesn't mean he could absorb the Odin Force.
You have a seriously skewed view on Prime compared to what the comics have shown us.
"He didn't "take out" Monarch." no he certainly did not kill him,but when Monarch was found again he was not the same mentally,my wordage was off there.apologies.
Originally posted by Rez
Really???you show me a scan of KT getting hurt by wolverine and losing an arm against 3 alternate characters who are NOT universal threatening.and you say i have a skewed outlook??
The point about the celestials if you missed it,is even they cant take a Universe destroying attack,yet they can take amped up OF shots like its nothing to them.see where i am going with this???
baka
King Thor being hurt by Wolverine and losing a limb while fighting the Hulk and the Thing doesn't mean Prime auto-wins. King Thor's got power output vastly superior to that of Kon-El. And Kon-El's heat vision scarred Prime for life. See what I did there?
Your "point" about the Celestials mean nothing really because you seriously think Prime can conventionally tank universal destroying attacks when he did it once, was coming off the high of an amp, and is easily beyond anything he's ever done before or since then. No one sane will agree that in a forum fight Prime will tank everything up to a universal destroying blast.
Trying to compare Prime to the Celestials is absurd.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
bakaKing Thor being hurt by Wolverine and losing a limb while fighting the Hulk and the Thing doesn't mean Prime auto-wins. King Thor's got power output vastly superior to that of Kon-El. And Kon-El's heat vision scarred Prime for life. See what I did there?
Your "point" about the Celestials mean nothing really because you seriously think Prime can conventionally tank universal destroying attacks when he did it once, was coming off the high of an amp, and is easily beyond anything he's ever done before or since then. No one sane will agree that in a forum fight Prime will tank everything up to a universal destroying blast.
Trying to compare Prime to the Celestials is absurd.
Did i say prime can take a celestial???i dont think so,i believe i was refering to the strength of the OF,and seeing as the celestials have fought an amped Odin,yet get blitzed by Thanos.kinda shows that OF is not as powerful as you may think.
Originally posted by Rez
Did i say prime can take a celestial???i dont think so,i believe i was refering to the strength of the OF,and seeing as the celestials have fought an amped Odin,yet get blitzed by Thanos.kinda shows that OF is not as powerful as you may think.
Celestials are so far beyond Odin and the OF, it's not even funny. Thanos? Odin beat the crap out of him. Or "stalemated", depending on how you view that fight.
The Odin Force is as powerful as I think in that it's a potent source of mystical/divine energy and wielded by one of the most powerful Skyfathers in comics (Odin), if not the most powerful one in Marvel based off of feats. He's not a multiversal threat, but still beyond Prime nevertheless.
I would give King Thor the majority on Prime, especially if he had Mjolnir. Rune King Thor and Odin beat the shit out of him.
Originally posted by RezBelieve it or not that was a typo. I was using swype on my phone and sometimes it doenst put exactly what I want. I meant to say I DONT want you to get banned.
"I doing want you to get banned".you are a disgrace to this forum
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Maybe a Lord Thor v SBP video will make you eat your words again???is that what it takes???
The irony of it all is that you take me for a Hulk nut,when he is not even my favorite Comic character.
Yeah thats what I thought. It is you. Creepy little bastard following me around. Whatever. I'll just have to shame you again.
Got anything on the actual debate??? My point still stands. KT is >> SBP. For all of the reasons mentioned.
There was context behind Prime's low showings. The fight was at night, Unlike superman, he gets full power as soon as he is exposed to the yellow sun and loses power just as quickly and number 2, they were rebooting the comic series and had to end the fight quickly. Also Yat had the ion entity, the ion entity has more power at its disposal than a skyfather, yet it wasn't powerful enough to summon enough strength to overcome prime, even in a daxamite's body.