Titans (Immortals) vs. Balrog

Originally posted by the ninjak
Gandalf's feats are random being that he's a mage of Old Magic.

His feats are comparable to the environment and situation around him. When Gandalf appeared before the Fellowship he made their weapons unuseable and overwhelmed them. Yet when he fought those Orks it was close to being the end of the humans, therefore his faith/magic was weakening.
The magic Gandalf commands isn't a bunch of spells he spams. Lightning bolt, fireball, teleport ect. He asks and he receives what the powers that be give him.
The fight was so devastating that that Gandalf obtained the next level of enlightenment. The Titans are a bunch of high powered animals. They don't have the tools to put it down.

The Titans have swords and may be fast but what are they exactly going to do the Balrog?

The Titans would slaughter gandalf or the balrog. Lucky for the Balrog he's much more durable but seeing as how quick and how powerful the Titans were the Balrog quickly loses limbs or his head.

You realise once speedsters jump they lose their momentum and speed.

Imagine taking on 30+ humanoids roughly 1/6 your size. You are a a living inferno with massive durability, a passive burning effect that would severly burn any that got close and a burning whip that can blast these things in such small confines.

The Titans can't just run around his heels and swipe due to the Balrog whiping his whip around the ground. If they jump they get smashed.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The Titans would overwhelm the Balrog.

Originally posted by the ninjak
Balrog wins. What are the Titans gonna do? Run around it and cut it with their blades?

Another chase were you've gone balls deep over a film and you fanboy argument.

Jesus Christ, the gods and Titans in this movie sound pathetically weak.

"THEY TOOK DOWN EIGHT GUYS IN A FEW SECONDS"!

That samurai loser who Rogue Jedi was arguing against Afro Samurai is more impressive than that, if that's all they got.

Gandalf is strong enough to make the Balrog lurch back from his blows, and durable enough to survive a multi-kilometer drop, and has a magic sword regardless.

Everyone else in Lord of the Rings was a non-factor against it.

So what can these Titans actually do?

Originally posted by NemeBro
So what can these Titans actually do?

They run. And they slash with their daggers. They are natural speedsters and have savage instinctual skills, and that's it. Their confinement has seemed to make them beastial in nature therefore lacking real tactical skills.

They also seem to be the Greek God's Kryptonite. Which to me makes them even weaker in this fight. But that's another argument.

Originally posted by the ninjak
You realise once speedsters jump they lose their momentum and speed.

Imagine taking on 30+ humanoids roughly 1/6 your size. You are a a living inferno with massive durability, a passive burning effect that would severly burn any that got close and a burning whip that can blast these things in such small confines.

The Titans can't just run around his heels and swipe due to the Balrog whiping his whip around the ground. If they jump they get smashed.

Originally posted by Robtard
Another chase were you've gone balls deep over a film and you fanboy argument.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Jesus Christ, the gods and Titans in this movie sound pathetically weak.

"THEY TOOK DOWN EIGHT GUYS IN A FEW SECONDS"!

That samurai loser who Rogue Jedi was arguing against Afro Samurai is more impressive than that, if that's all they got.

Gandalf is strong enough to make the Balrog lurch back from his blows, and durable enough to survive a multi-kilometer drop, and has a magic sword regardless.

Everyone else in Lord of the Rings was a non-factor against it.

So what can these Titans actually do?

Originally posted by quanchi112

What's fanboyish about my argument ? It seems most here are fanboyish about the Balrog and give him/it far too much credit.

That a bunch of dudes who didn't really do all that much are going to overwhelm and take down a super-strong and super-durability being made of rock, fire, smoke and shadow.

It was strong enough to break through solid stone and durable enough to survive a massive free-fall. Yet some blades are hacking it apart? Nope. Hence you fanboy cos Immortals is the new shiny object in your eye.

Originally posted by Robtard
That a bunch of dudes who didn't really do all that much are going to overwhelm and take down a super-strong and super-durability being made of rock, fire, smoke and shadow.

It was strong enough to break through solid stone and durable enough to survive a massive free-fall. Yet some blades are hacking it apart? Nope. Hence you fanboy cos Immortals is the new shiny object in your eye.

I don't for one see a Balrog stomping the Immortals earth like the Titans would have. The Titans were also kicking the shit out of the gods and overwhelming the shit out of them. But then again one old weaker version of Gandalf fought him for over a day yet was easily bested by Saruman but crushes the Titans. It's almost laughable how biased you seem to be.

Titans for the win.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Didn't really do all that much ? The film made it perfectly clear they would stomp earth into the pits of hell had the gods not intervened. These are the same gods who can create tidal waves and can treat skilled elite warriors like nothing.

I don't for one see a Balrog stomping the Immortals earth like the Titans would have. The Titans were also kicking the shit out of the gods and overwhelming the shit out of them. But then again one old weaker version of Gandalf fought him for over a day yet was easily bested by Saruman but crushes the Titans. It's almost laughable how biased you seem to be.

Fantasizing again are we, the Titans would have crushed mankind, ie mortals.

Once again you're taking ranting and hubris over actual screen-feats. Try and debate with what the Titans did and showed (not much) instead of rants.

Probably the 30th time you've been told this, but here it is again: Screen-Feats > What is implied.

Besides, it also comes to the line at the beginning of Immortals: They discovered they could kill each other"

So compared to mortals, these guys are frikkin beasts. Compared to the gods? They are your average warrior. Compared to a balrog? Puny little guys with sketchers who cant take a hit.

Notice how each blow from a god takes one down. Their biggest advantage is numbers, and with the balrogs sword and whip those numbers are useless.

Originally posted by Robtard
Fantasizing again are we, the Titans would have crushed mankind, ie mortals.

Once again you're taking ranting and hubris over actual screen-feats. Try and debate with what the Titans did and showed (not much) instead of rants.

Probably the 30th time you've been told this, but here it is again: Screen-Feats > What is implied.

The Titans showed they can destroy a human wielding the epirus bow after just one shot. They moved in and tore him apart just like the gods.

Screen feats show to react to the gods insane speed it's well beyond the slow attacks of the Balrog.

It's like saying a great white shark can defeat a school of piranhas. Not going to happen.

Originally posted by Pwned
Besides, it also comes to the line at the beginning of Immortals: They discovered they could kill each other"

So compared to mortals, these guys are frikkin beasts. Compared to the gods? They are your average warrior. Compared to a balrog? Puny little guys with sketchers who cant take a hit.

Notice how each blow from a god takes one down. Their biggest advantage is numbers, and with the balrogs sword and whip those numbers are useless.

No, the Titans weren't average warriors as we saw one god save Theseus and scare the mortals. The mortals are nothing compared to the gods. The film made the relative ease in which one god easily tore through Hyperion's forces perfectly clear.

The Balrog was defeated by one old mage. Someone who went down to Saruman and needed over a day and still couldn't even best an old man Saruman easily crushed with bruising tk.

The Titans would maul any Balrog thrown into any pit.

It's more like a hippo versus a school of pirahnas based on what has been stated in this thread.

Pirahnas can literally do nothing to the hippo.

Also, lul at considering the ability to take down bronze-age humans some kind of feat.

What kind of feats does the Balrog have, besides being big and on fire?

Originally posted by Placidity
What kind of feats does the Balrog have, besides being big and on fire?

Dying against Gandalf

Originally posted by NemeBro
It's more like a hippo versus a school of pirahnas based on what has been stated in this thread.

Pirahnas can literally do nothing to the hippo.

Also, lul at considering the ability to take down bronze-age humans some kind of feat.

Originally posted by Placidity
What kind of feats does the Balrog have, besides being big and on fire?

Crumbling the solid stone structures of Moria by walking.

Apparently being immune to mundane Medieval era weaponry (Supported by Gandalf's dialogue and the fact that Glamdring is magic, yo).

Being 30 feet tall and on fire.

And really, the notion that people who support LotR do so with the books in mind is pretty false. Otherwise Gandalf would be crumbling the sides of mountains (Like what happened in the book when he fought the Balrog).

This all comes off as more impressive than "Yeah I guess we're kind of fast."

Quanchi, what you asked me was answered in this post. So... Not responding to your's.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Screen feats show they would have. The Titans were moving far too fast. They were on a level slightly below the gods but greatly outnumbered them. The gods would wipe their asses with mortals.

The Titans showed they can destroy a human wielding the epirus bow after just one shot. They moved in and tore him apart just like the gods.

Screen feats show to react to the gods insane speed it's well beyond the slow attacks of the Balrog.

It's like saying a great white shark can defeat a school of piranhas. Not going to happen.

Titans or the Gods in Immortals being able to destroy mortals wasn't disputed, so you're ranting again.

Awesome, they can destroy a human. We all know this, so you're just ranting again.

Awesome, they're very fast. We all know this, so you're just ranting again.

LoL, fail analogy. A Great White Shark(the Balrog here) doesn't have to bother or worry about a school of piranhas(The Titans here), which is exactly the point, genius. The Titans can't do jack and shit to the Balrog, while its fire whip/sword can destroy them should it make contact.

It's hard to tell how durable the gods and titans are since they only fought each other, and we don't see any other displays of power from either, besides Poseidon making the huge wave.