Just becasue he was above the LT doesn't mean he is automatically equal to the one above all. We don't know how big of a gap there is between the LT and TOAA. For all we know, LT may be a dust particle to TOAA. Getting to LT and and filling that gap and greaching TOAA is beyond anything protege can do and this allowed Scanthan to judge him. Lucifer, in comics challenges God. That's alot more than a mere dust particle can accomplish. Lucifer Wins.
Originally posted by zopzopLucifer would beat LT
Scathan can do more than muzzle the over rated pretty boy. People forget that after Scathan owned the Protege with the muzzle, the LT asked Scathan to remove the muzzle and RESTRAIN the Protege as the LT passed judgement. Think about this. Scathan restrained a being that was more powerful than the LT and every other cosmic assembled at that trial. If the LT had asked Scathan to rip the Protege's head off, I believe 100% that he had the power to do it too.
Scathan has one feat: muzzling Protege. Said feat rendered Protege powerless because he was no longer able to see the other cosmics, subsequently stopping him from duplicating any of their powers.
That same 'tactic' wouldn't really apply to Lucifer, imo- ie. he wouldn't automatically become powerless if Scathan were to muzzle him.
Guy I have no idea what you guys talked about but this is what I think.
Protege while he had vast power was unskilled or did not know how to auto defend himself.
Thus Scathan exploite weakenesses inherent to protege...
Cause somehow I just can't see the real "TOAA" being defeated by anyone.
It's not like we have on panel LT unleashing an multiversity ending attack and protege tanking it then getting owned by Scathan.
Now correct me if I'm wrong cause I know I posted it here a Lon time ago...
But it was Scathan the hawk god and lt in a room discussing what to do when lt states they may have need of the eye of agamotto to defeat protege...
And yet Scathan does it alone? Doesn't that sound a little odd? They didn't even need it in the end. :-/
Originally posted by rotiart
Guy I have no idea what you guys talked about but this is what I think.
Protege while he had vast power was unskilled or did not know how to auto defend himself.Thus Scathan exploite weakenesses inherent to protege...
Cause somehow I just can't see the real "TOAA" being defeated by anyone.
It's not like we have on panel LT unleashing an multiversity ending attack and protege tanking it then getting owned by Scathan.
Now correct me if I'm wrong cause I know I posted it here a Lon time ago...
But it was Scathan the hawk god and lt in a room discussing what to do when lt states they may have need of the eye of agamotto to defeat protege...And yet Scathan does it alone? Doesn't that sound a little odd? They didn't even need it in the end. :-/
i got a reply from that editor....he said it was canon
always believed both were needed to stop the protege
i can post the scans soon
Originally posted by Galan007
Scathan has one feat: muzzling Protege. Said feat rendered Protege powerless because he was no longer able to see the other cosmics, subsequently stopping him from duplicating any of their powers.That same 'tactic' wouldn't really apply to Lucifer, imo- ie. he wouldn't automatically become powerless if Scathan were to muzzle him.
Read the scans again Galan. After Scathan stopped the Protege's rampage and muzzled him, proving he was more powerful than any being assembled at the trial, the LT asked Scathan to remove the muzzle and RESTRAIN the Protege as the LT passed judgement. Scathan later approved of the judgement. The Protege didn't lose any powers he had copied just because he was muzzled, he still had their powers, hence why the LT asked Scathan to restrain him.
Scathan restrained a being that had duplicated the powers of every member of the cosmic trial, the LT included. If the LT asked Scathan to kill the Protege instead, he could have done it. The Handbook entry for the LT makes it crystal clear, Scathan saved the LT's ass.
Proof :
Beyonder, All reality in the hands of that child -
The powers and principalities confirm the statement -
Scathan saves the court from annihilation -
Scathan is powerful enough to restrain the True God even when he removed the muzzle and the Protege was struggling -
He also approved of the LT's judgement
The LT was not needed to stop the Protege, at all. If Scathan wasn't there, Protege would be the one true God. Confirmation from the Handbook entry for the LT -
