Originally posted by h1a8
WBH>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Bor in strengthWBH would break Thor like a weak twig.
That's based on...nothing really.
With a single strike, not even a flush one, he was capable of delivering a blow which would have one shot killed Thor had it not been for the Odin Force. No Hulk has ever come close to being able to pull such a feat off of as that.
At best, I can see WBH being Bor's superior in terms of sheer strength, but he's not going to blow him completely out of the water.
Originally posted by JakeTheBankhyperbole...please look it up.
That's based on...nothing really.With a single strike, not even a flush one, he was capable of delivering a blow which would have one shot killed Thor had it not been for the Odin Force. No Hulk has ever come close to being able to pull such a feat off of as that.
At best, I can see WBH being Bor's superior in terms of sheer strength, but he's not going to blow him completely out of the water.
bor was the most overhyped piece of old fart in recent memory. his fight with thor barely destroyed a city block. he is nothing to WWH.
Originally posted by Starscream M
hyperbole...please look it up.bor was the most overhyped piece of old fart in recent memory. his fight with thor barely destroyed a city block. he is nothing to WWH.
Lol? Thor suffering broken ribs and proclaiming that had it not been for the Odin Force, he surely would have died =/= hyperbole.
Collateral damage =/= a proper indicator for someone's power level. That kind of nonsense is what makes people cream themselves for Gladiator's "planet busting" feat and think he's >>>> High Heralds.
Originally posted by JakeTheBankno it is hyperbole, and of the worst kind I might add...how in the phuck would thor be able to assess that he would've died had it not been odin force, he can't.
Lol? Thor suffering broken ribs and proclaiming that had it not been for the Odin Force, he surely would have died =/= hyperbole.
bor didn't actually DO anything beyond what WWH could do. And losing to thor was certainly not a bright point on his resume. bor was a low herald at best in my estimation.
Originally posted by Starscream M
no it is hyperbole, and of the worst kind I might add...how in the phuck would thor be able to assess that he would've died had it not been odin force, he can't.bor didn't actually DO anything beyond what WWH could do. And losing to thor was certainly not a bright point on his resume. bor was a low herald at best in my estimation.
Because the Odin Force grants him an enhanced sense of awareness? And Thor knows what could kill him? That's a really silly question at best.
The second paragraph is just ridiculous.
Originally posted by JakeTheBankoh stop it...that was just thor's version of superman's constant 'that's the hardest I've ever been hit' every time writers need to build up a new villain
Because the Odin Force grants him an enhanced sense of awareness? And Thor knows what could kill him? That's a really silly question at best.The second paragraph is just ridiculous.
you just don't have a rebuttal.
Originally posted by Starscream M
oh stop it...that was just thor's version of superman's constant 'that's the hardest I've ever been hit' every time writers need to build up a new villainyou just don't have a rebuttal.
Well, you don't read or know anything of value when it comes to Thor, so your interpretation means jack to me, tbh.
What's there to say? You said Bor is low Herald at best. What can I say to that comment?
Originally posted by Starscream MOF Thor when fighting Bor was above high herald. Otherwise the amp would have been irrelevant. And Thor's words even if you consider them hyperbole count for something. To me theres a difference between obvious overhyping of an attack like the example you used earlier, and when a character flat out admits that would have killed him if it hadnt been for the amp. I'm assuming that was JMS trying to convey how strong Bor really was. Going by that statement, I'm putting him at Trans.
thor's high herald. i think bor was weaker than thor.maybe midherald.
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Originally posted by Starscream MEpic phail.
thor's high herald. i think bor was weaker than thor.maybe midherald.
What mid herald would have killed an amped Thor were it not for he amp? What mid herald pushes an amped Thor to the limit more than the Destroyer does? What mid herald threatens the Earth with his power simply by powering up? What mid herald is an amped Thor shattering Mjolnir on when he hits flush? What mid herald creates the Disir?
Originally posted by Damborgson
He was having trouble with Desak the entire time yes but The Thor that fought Desak was no skyfather. I think we can both agree that the Thor who fought in New York and the Thor who beheaded the Destroyer are on different levels. Especially considering how easily Thor from Gods and Men was able to combine Jake Olsen and Pre Reigning Thor against his will. At the end Thor had opened up to a higher extent of the OF and was once again worthy of Mjolnir. The Thor who fought the heroes (Hulk, thing, cap, wolvy) was around trans. And when the OF was taken from him he still beat the hulk and thing to death. (I personally see that amulet as having only taken away Thor's ability to use his eye beams, other OF powers , etc..but did not take away his high strength and durability increase. Which is the only way I could see him winning that one.) So its safe to say that even without an active strength increase, KT would be hitting pretty F*cking hard. I dont see it as anything that would be out of his power range to amp to even higher levels that Zeus was at and treat Hulk like a rag doll again. I personally dont see him on Odins level either but there was no doubt he was a skyfather. Amping his fists with the OF should childs play. Hulk would be out of league against KT. Even with a fist fight.Now that said....
I agree. Relaunch Thor would lose in a fist fight. I dont see it necessarily as a complete sh*t stomp but he would lose soundly.
If the Thor who fought at the end was truly a skyfather, then yeah id agree, that he could take even this hulk via amping. And if at the end he truly had opened up to a higher level of the Odinforce and was operating the level an Odinforce wielder should have been the whole time then yeah he would beat hulk. IM just sorta doubtful, that that epiphany he came to resulted in such a huge spike in power and wasnt simply the typical hero overcoming (both moral, and physical challenges) moments too often seen in comics.Hence i find it iffy to think that from that point on he could easily replicate such hits repeatedly....with his fists none the less. For the sake of argument however ill rephrase;
KT at any point before his Desaak epiphany at the end loses in a fist fight.
Relaunch thor loses as well
Edit...That is if we are using HOTM hulk as Current hulk.
Originally posted by Starscream M
hyperbole...please look it up.bor was the most overhyped piece of old fart in recent memory. his fight with thor barely destroyed a city block. he is nothing to WWH.
All out Sentry and World War Hulk destroyed a few buildings.
All out, non holding back, Heart of the Monster World Breaker Hulk who was amped by a Gamma Bomb stomped and beat on Fing Fang Foom. His exact equal Red-She Hulk who was similarly amped was joining in. Their attacks barely left a crater IIRC.
I guess World Breaker Hulk is weaksauce, just like whatever planetary bodies he destroyed in the Dark Dimension. Must have been made of the same mushy stuff as the world Gladiator destroyed.
You =/= Logical
Originally posted by Starscream M
thor's high herald. i think bor was weaker than thor.maybe midherald.
Originally posted by Starscream M
bor was not impressive and did nothing to deserve high herald status
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Sometimes I wish stupidity was a bannable offense.
Originally posted by Starscream M
jake, I have read alot of thor. he is one of my top 5 favorite heroes, so I actually do know quite alot about him.
You're so full of it.
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Rebirth Thor vs. current Hulk - It would go down like a match with regular Thor unless he operated on the same level as he did against Bor.
King Thor vs. Current Hulk - Thor.
Rune King Thor vs. Current Hulk - Lawl.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0the midherald that gets killed by thor...
Epic phail.What mid herald would have killed an amped Thor were it not for he amp? What mid herald pushes an amped Thor to the limit more than the Destroyer does? What mid herald threatens the Earth with his power simply by powering up? What mid herald is an amped Thor shattering Mjolnir on when he hits flush? What mid herald creates the Disir?