Current Hulk vs OdinForce Thor(Fist Fight)

Originally posted by Nihilist
BS, care to back that with any proof other than your usual rabid speculation.

Let me see, we have Hulk being not fazed by beings 1000x their normal strength. And at their normal strength would definitely effect Thor with blows. OF Thor although more durable wasn't shown to be anywhere near 1000x more durable. Even if he was then WBH still treated the 1000x stronger beings like insects.

The mere fact that WBH fists collides with Thor's face would probably kill Thor. Not only by the power of the strike but by the energy protruding from his body.

Also we have Nul, an arguable weaker Hulk, break Uru hammers with his bare hands, and break through adamantium weave.

The obvious portrayal of both makes it clear that WBH>Bor in strength. Only a fool or troll would argue otherwise.

I would say that Bor was high herald at worst and trans at best. He was definitely no skyfather though.

With that said, Current Hulk is far above both in strength. And since this is a fist fight then it should be clear that Hulk wins. Who disagrees?

I would say that Bor was high herald at worst and trans at best. He was definitely no skyfather though.

With that said, Current Hulk is far above both in strength. And since this is a fist fight then it should be clear that Hulk wins. Who disagrees?

Originally posted by Naija boy
Any thor short of rkt would lose in a fist fight. Odinforce Thor, that fought rulk would get demolished.

Stopped reading here.

Loeb Force PIS, and didn't Loeb even try backpeddling by citing Rulks energy absorbing ability to appease fan outrage?

I mean, come on, Rulk was even dragging Thor around by his hammer, it was ridiculous.

Originally posted by cdtm
Stopped reading here.

Loeb Force PIS, and didn't Loeb even try backpeddling by citing Rulks energy absorbing ability to appease fan outrage?

I mean, come on, Rulk was even dragging Thor around by his hammer, it was ridiculous.

It wasn't ridiculous. I wouldn't say PIS either since RULK has other feats comparable.

It actually makes more sense that Rulk did what he did without the use of energy absorption power since RULK is based off WWH and in HOTM Hulk confessed that he greatly held back as WWH. Rulk who has the same power didn't hold back as much and is the reason why he did what he did to Thor.

The Hulk that beat Rulk should never manhandle Odinforce Thor.

Originally posted by Naija boy
If the Thor who fought at the end was truly a skyfather, then yeah id agree, that he could take even this hulk via amping. And if at the end he truly had opened up to a higher level of the Odinforce and was operating the level an Odinforce wielder should have been the whole time then yeah he would beat hulk. IM just sorta doubtful, that that epiphany he came to resulted in such a huge spike in power and wasnt simply the typical hero overcoming (both moral, and physical challenges) moments too often seen in comics.Hence i find it iffy to think that from that point on he could easily replicate such hits repeatedly....with his fists none the less. For the sake of argument however ill rephrase;

KT at any point before his Desaak epiphany at the end loses in a fist fight.

Relaunch thor loses as well

Edit...That is if we are using HOTM hulk as Current hulk.

It had to be a huge spike in power imo since Pre Reigning Thor got stomped by Desak while having Mjolnir. Plus he let loose a huge OF blast "the power of all hells combined" (probably hyperbole but still really powerful) and it didnt do jack to Desak except make him smile. So to be able to strike the destroyer with enough power to take its head off...well thats a seriously high amount of power that he gained there at the end. And even if he could replicate the same power onto his fists for whatever reason(which he should be able to), even a similarly placed amp onto him being would be more than enough to give hulk devastating blows. Especially considering how Desak was "immune" to the magic of the gods.

But if KT stays at like his physical strength levels that he fought ThorBuster in then yeah he probably loses I guess. He needs to amp.

Originally posted by Starscream M
thor's high herald. i think bor was weaker than thor.

maybe midherald.

Classic/current Thor is high herald.

Odinforce Thor that fought Bor was greater then his classic/current self. Bor more or less was equal to odinforce Thor .

Odinforce Thor tanked a shot that would of killed him destoryer blast. With no harm to himself.

Bor on the other hand broke his ribs.

BOr did more damage to Odinforce Thor then a blast from DEstoryer which killed him in the past.

So there is evidence that shows that Bor could Kill/ Classic/current Thor

Originally posted by Starscream M
the midherald that gets killed by thor...

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Amped Thor. So if you're beaten by unamped Thor, you're midherald? Do you know how many foes he's beaten/killed that are far more powerful than he was? Don't be so ignorant.

if you beat someone fair, then you're more powerful

Originally posted by Starscream M
you can't beat someone far more powerful (unless a plot device was involved)

if you beat someone fair, then you're more powerful

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Don't be so ignorant.

this isn't comics, ODG. this is forum fight, where the hero doesn't get the auto win because good guy has to win.

here, on KMC, we debate PIS free. If a hero won without PIS, then he is the more powerful, or perhaps he outsmarted...there has to be a reason for a weaker character to win in a fight.

Originally posted by Starscream M
this isn't comics, ODG. this is forum fight, where the hero doesn't get the auto win because good guy has to win.

here, on KMC, we debate PIS free. If a hero won without PIS, then he is the more powerful, or perhaps he outsmarted...there has to be a reason for a weaker character to win in a fight.

There is no KMC rule that says we should automatically place any character defeated by another on the tier lower than they are... because of your clownish reasoning that being defeated can only mean 1. relative inferiority, 2. outsmarting, or 3. PIS that never happened.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Don't be so ignorant.

so then according to you, beating someone doesn't mean much since we shouldn't extrapolate relative standings from that

you're really living up to your namesake 😬

Originally posted by Starscream M
so then according to you, beating someone doesn't mean much since we shouldn't extrapolate relative standings from that

you're really living up to your namesake 😬

And take your quaneuvers elsewhere. You don't have the subtlety required to keep it going for more than 1 post. Let's return to how moronic your reasoning is: According to you, Punisher and Daredevil splitting 2 fights where they both win one, means they both move down a tier. Punisher beats Daredevil, Daredevil is "now below street." Daredevil beats Punisher next, then somehow Punisher should be "below street twice over, since Daredevil had already moved down a tier... by losing once before... to Punisher."

Stop acting like KMC forum hypotheticals about comic book fights involving comic book characters shouldn't be informed by what happens in comics. Or, more accurately, stop acting like I can't completely expose your narrow-sighted rhetoric through common sense because I'm somehow not allowed to reference the very thing we're talking about, i.e., comics.

I never said anytime someone beats someone, they move down a tier you clown.

You extrapolated that nonsense yourself.

I do say that if you lose to someone (barring exigent circumstances) that you are probably less powerful.

In my opinion bor is less powerful than thor. I didn't move him down a tier, he's still herald, just not on the highend of the spectrum.

Kapish?!

Originally posted by Starscream M
I never said anytime someone beats someone, they move down a tier you clown.

You extrapolated that nonsense yourself.

Through your nonsensical rhetoric. You don't like how your absolutist nonsense pans out, drop it... or slowly walk away from it, like so with the flimsy qualifiers, "brring exigent," "probably less powerful":

Originally posted by Starscream M
I do say that if you lose to someone (barring exigent circumstances) that you are probably less powerful.

In my opinion bor is less powerful than thor. I didn't move him down a tier, he's still herald, just not on the highend of the spectrum.

Kapish?!

In my opinion, your opinion is retarded and you're upset at how plainly true that is.

Kapish?!

pls quote me the part where I said or acted like it was a rule...

^ pls quote yourself where you said anything sensical or acted like you had any sense...

Because this is all I've seen:

Originally posted by Starscream M
his fight with thor barely destroyed a city block. he is nothing to WWH.

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bor was a low herald at best in my estimation.

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bor was not impressive and did nothing to deserve high herald status

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maybe midherald.

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you can't beat someone far more powerful (unless a plot device was involved)

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this isn't comics, ODG. this is forum fight, where the hero doesn't get the auto win because good guy has to win.

here, on KMC, we debate PIS free. If a hero won without PIS, then he is the more powerful, or perhaps he outsmarted...there has to be a reason for a weaker character to win in a fight.

thx...like i figured, you were speaking outta your ass

nowhere did i say that if you lose a fight, you drop a tier. now go put on your clownshoes.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Yeah, just that Bor should be midherald because Thor beat him. Like Thor hasn't beaten dozens of foes more powerful than him. Christ.

Through your nonsensical rhetoric. You don't like how your absolutist nonsense pans out, drop it... or slowly walk away from it, like so with the flimsy qualifiers, "brring exigent," "probably less powerful":

You acted like it was a rule. To support your ridiculed statement that Bor was midherald "since Thor killed him." And then you acted like my referencing what commonly happens in comics violates some other made up rule that "this isn't comics, it's KMC."

In my opinion, your opinion is retarded and you're upset at how plainly true that is.

Kapish?!

Now gtfo. In case you haven't noticed, nobody gave the slightest credence to the sh1t you panhandled in this thread.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Thanks for running away from the inane consequences of your narrow minded reasoning. Your backtracking and tripping over yourself this entire thread is evident of the foolishness with which you approached your "estimation" that Bor was lowmidherald... because he lost to Thor (who cares about all the feats you completely ignored).
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