So did I 🙂
Sasori doesn't care about underwater or drowning, and his poison should work as well, the ability to close wounds with chakra won't help there. Iron sands is an attack that works fine underwater, as is some of his puppet-launched projectiles. His armor shell protects him from both Samehada and the water sharks too. Sasori is someone I'd give good odds against Kisame.
Deidara, he should stay flying for most of the fight, well above possible water domes, and drop depth charges on him. Not as good a chance as Sasori, since water will provide some protection from bombs and Samehada should be able to diffuse bombs, but still a big battle one-on-one.
Originally posted by Q99
I don't think Kisame is stronger than Deidara and Sasori.
He's definitely stronger than Sasori and Deidara, but that doesn't mean either cannot beat him.
Originally posted by Damborgson
They both are on the way to the leaf to get Naruto but run into each other and start arguing. Then shoving. Then it turns into an all out fight. Fight to the death, which tteam wins? Fight is in the forest of Death.
Team 1.
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
He's definitely stronger than Sasori and Deidara, but that doesn't mean either cannot beat him.
Eh, I disagree. I put him and Sasori on a similar level. Kisame's got more omph but Sasori has more versatility and the one-hit-win potential of all his poison attacks.
Originally posted by Q99
I don't think Kisame is stronger than Deidara and Sasori.
Overall, Kisame is stronger than Diedara.
Sasori is stronger than both.
I am using the "stronger" as in, the Naruto sense. Not physical stronger. In Naruto/shounen manga, when they say "you've gotten strong", they are not talking about physical strong, but overall power.
If you meant physical strength, yeah, Kisame is a 5. A solid 5, to be exact because even Guy was impressed by his strength and Guy is one of the (without gates) strongest ninjas in the manga.
And, yeah, I think Itachi wins...even sick Itachi. He can solo all the others because his Susano'o can be activated faster than a lightning strike (that's actually a fact established by Sasuke vs. Itachi). So no one will get a drop on him.
If we turn off CIS, Itachi activates Susano'o, full power, seals everyone with his sword, and the fight is over.
Most powerful offensive weapon seen: check.
Most powerful defensive weapn seen: check.
Does anyone think Itachi is OP? He could potentially take on Madara (rinnigan) and win without a problem due to his sealing sword. Man, now I don't like Itachi as much: too OP.
Originally posted by Q99
Eh, I disagree. I put him and Sasori on a similar level. Kisame's got more omph but Sasori has more versatility and the one-hit-win potential of all his poison attacks.
Against Kisame, Sasori's definitely got the advantage thanks to his hax poison.
On an overall basis though, Sasori's not his equal, not when he change the entire battlefield with one jutsu to give himself an advantage, and drain the very thing a ninja uses for jutsu.
~ Anyway, unless Sasori has drastically changed the make-up of his poisons since Orochimaru left Akatsuki, I'd wager Sasuke would be immune to them.
On an overall basis though, Sasori's not his equal, not when he change the entire battlefield with one jutsu to give himself an advantage, and drain the very thing a ninja uses for jutsu.
Keep in mind that Sasori has battlefield-wide jutsu (iron sands, and hundred puppets), and his iron sands lets him deny ninja their weapons that they often rely on.
Eating chakra is nice, but it's largely a defensive thing, he can't eat the chakra until it's been sent out after him or is otherwise being radiated, and it always has to be hit with the sword (and/or be in merged mode).
With Sasori having both an offensive hax (the one-hit poison), and a defensive (make weapons a liability to the user), and the ability to select puppets to match opponent's weaknesses, I do think he's better against most enemies (not all, I'd definitely want Kisame against like jinchuuriki, but most).
AsbestosFlaygon
Kisame is stronger than BOTH.
His chakra level was through the roof.
Chakra amount isn't everything, though. Itachi has a lot less, but is the senior partner of their crew.
Originally posted by Q99
Chakra amount isn't everything, though. Itachi has a lot less, but is the senior partner of their crew.
But what I meant is he could manhandle them both individually.
Together, Sasori and Deidara are a force to reckon with.
If they actually worked together, they can steamroll through most tag teams in Narutoverse.
Originally posted by AsbestosFlaygon
I concur.But what I meant is he could manhandle them both individually.
I don't think so. I think Sasori'd have some advantage, and Deidara, while disadvantaged, would still be a tough fight.
IMO most Akatsuki-on-Akatsuki battles are tough combats, unless Itachi, Tobi, or Nagato are involved.