Originally posted by carver9
Class #2.Rulk fts happened, no matter if you think its PIS or not and WWH beat this same version of Rulk that was wrecking shop.
Did I ever say that Hulk is greater than Odin?
Surfer didn't wreck Rulk. When Surfer faced Rulk, HE DIED and got his powers drained. Rulk then went to face Galactus and Galactus absorbed the power cosmic from Rulk and brought Surfer back to life.
Rulk OWNED OF Thor and left his a** on the moon. You got one thing right though...Rulk and Thor fought again (a Rulk that was trying to reason with Thor) and Thor got the upper hand but let's not forget "Rulk wasn't using his absorption power in this fight...he was basically holding back.
Juggernaut didn't ko the stranger like Rulk koed the watcher and killed a skyfather.
Ummmmm, tanking a nuke and being punched so hard that it created a nuclear explosion are two different things. I don't get your point. 😕
You didn't read WWH did you? Like I told you before, I am here to help you. Read what Strange say. He tells you in this scan why he didn't bfr Hulk and I agree with the guy 100%.
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Hulk/wwhstrongest.jpg
Class dismissed.
P.S. somebody please help this guy out...he ain't ready for Carver9.
Trying to seriously argue for Rulk should get you a slap in the face, tbh. You can't justify bad writing of other characters just to make Hulk look good.
Originally posted by carver9
Hulk went through and survived a worm hole that koed Surfer. A Black Hole isn't stopping him.
He'd still have to escape its gravitational pull.
Originally posted by Raptor22
I have a question, why can the x-men do all this like call in wolverine and teleport here and there but in batman vs x23 i was told batman couldnt call in the batmobile/plane remotely that it would be prep, even though he's done it before, he just has to push a button on a remote on his belt, and the fight takes place in gotham.
I just read your post in the X23 thread, id consider it a legit and viable tactic to use. You should've pressed your case harder.
Originally posted by nwg202
lol. you're a funny dude.
Originally posted by The Sorrow
This was actually stated in WWH multiple times, he always returns and history backs this up. He has been sent to several different dimensions/planets throughout his career and each time has returned. In terms of the context of the story it's understandable that Strange had the line reasoning he did.
So what hulk now has magik's powerset? he can now teleport? So if strange or magik dump him into a blackhole or a different universe he'll be back in a second? can he fly at lightspeed now?
I think his 'he always comes back' shtick isn't a power, per se, but a plot device thing. For example, despite being exiled across the galaxy in Planet Hulk, he found a way home. It wasn't under his own power, but circumstances would align for him to get back, like how Constantine has the ability to always be in the right place at the right time for events to happen.
Its certainly not like Kuurth's ability, for example. Besides, BFR is off for this thread...
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I think his 'he always comes back' shtick isn't a power, per se, but a plot device thing. For example, despite being exiled across the galaxy in Planet Hulk, he found a way home. It wasn't under his own power, but circumstances would align for him to get back, like how Constantine has the ability to always be in the right place at the right time for events to happen.Its certainly not like Kuurth's ability, for example. Besides, BFR is off for this thread...
yup. that's what i was thinking. I was just talking about how strange could have teleported him into a blackhole during WWhulk. good old carv said it wouldn't stop the hulk. He seemed to be implying that you can't BFR the hulk. hulk fans seem to equate being stronger than others physically means you beat anyone no matter how diverse or exotic the powerset of that character is.Hulk will growl and punch his way to victory even if that person moves at the speed of light and is intangible or has powerful magic.
Originally posted by nwg202
So what hulk now has magik's powerset? he can now teleport? So if strange or magik dump him into a blackhole or a different universe he'll be back in a second? can he fly at lightspeed now?
With regards to the thread, BFR is off and the Ex Team are left with a literal beast that they can't get rid of and are incapable of KO'ing. I just don't see them winning unless you bring in every other x-man out there but I don't believe that was the thread starters intentions when he created a "current" X-Men vs Hulk thread. As a collective the X-Men's line-up has barely changed since WWH *shrugs*
Originally posted by The Sorrow
I know bud, if you read my post I was talking for plots sake so it's understandable Strange didn't BFR him again in WWH as he has already done that several times in the past and each time has been unsuccessful. Hulk has destroyed dimensions in the past, even recently he was destroying the Dark Dimension just for fun until he had to be persuaded to leave.With regards to the thread, BFR is off and the Ex Team are left with a literal beast that they can't get rid of and are incapable of KO'ing. I just don't see them winning unless you bring in every other x-man out there but I don't believe that was the thread starters intentions when he created a "current" X-Men vs Hulk thread. As a collective the X-Men's line-up has barely changed since WWH *shrugs*
But then, he DID say rematch, and last time the Hulk came a-calling, he didn't just fight the main team at the time (which were Astonishing). He fought the New X-men, then Astonishing showed up (and the Hulk said yes, here comes the main event), then Uncanny, then X-factor, then Excalibur (well, just the Juggernaut lol). They're all X-men, and if we are to nitpick, Wolverine's team have more of a claim to that name, being called 'Wolverine and the X-men', as opposed to 'The Extinction team'.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
But then, he DID say rematch, and last time the Hulk came a-calling, he didn't just fight the main team at the time (which were Astonishing). He fought the New X-men, then Astonishing showed up (and the Hulk said yes, here comes the main event), then Uncanny, then X-factor, then Excalibur (well, just the Juggernaut lol). They're all X-men, and if we are to nitpick, Wolverine's team have more of a claim to that name, being called 'Wolverine and the X-men', as opposed to 'The Extinction team'.
If this is literally the Hulk facing every single X-Man at once it would be pretty ridiculous, he would need to be at World Breaker levels for this to not be spite. Some common sense needs to be applied to this thread.
Originally posted by TheHulk
If WWH was written properly he would have smashed everyone in WWH Storyline more easy so want are you trying to prove
That the X-team in WWH was geared for Hulk to win? I can't blame the writers, it WAS Marvel's big event after all, and the X-men were merely a stepping stone on to bigger things - there was no way they could have the Hulk losing.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85Lol that's a lowly excuse cause if that true than their is no need for battleboards
That the X-team in WWH was geared for Hulk to win? I can't blame the writers, it WAS Marvel's big event after all, and the X-men were merely a stepping stone on to bigger things - there was no way they could have the Hulk losing.
Originally posted by The Sorrow
He fought each team individually though, so even if you want to go that route it still doesn't end well for the X-Men.If this is literally the Hulk facing every single X-Man at once it would be pretty ridiculous, he would need to be at World Breaker levels for this to not be spite. Some common sense needs to be applied to this thread.
Nah, not trying to do that route, but am trying to cherry pick members from each team to form a single X-team to fight him, which is what I believe Cyclops would do, having seen what the Hulk is capable of. Actually, scratch that, all I wanted from the other teams was Wolverine.
The way I approach this fight, which is probably different from the Hulk supporters (I don't ever want to throw derogatory terms like Gammatard or fanboy), is this:
Cyclops doesn't actually exist, only in the writer's mind. Much like Batman or Reed, his tactics are whatever the writer dreams up. So if the writer thinks that Cyclops would plan to use the Muramasa Blade, he will create a plan for him. He will know about the thunderclaps etc, and he will know that WWH is the strongest/most cunning he's ever been. So he won't mess around, and be humiliated like last time.
When Kuurth came, what did he do? He cherry-picked people from across the X-world, using Pixie to bring them to Utopia to try and stop Kuurth. I'm doing exactly the same thing, only this time I'm using resources that weren't used by Cyclops.
When I read 'curren X-men' I took it to mean no one who's dead, or been kicked out....
