WWH Vs Xmen Rematch

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Nah, not trying to do that route, but am trying to cherry pick members from each team to form a single X-team to fight him, which is what I believe Cyclops would do, having seen what the Hulk is capable of. Actually, scratch that, all I wanted from the other teams was Wolverine.

The way I approach this fight, which is probably different from the Hulk supporters (I don't ever want to throw derogatory terms like Gammatard or fanboy), is this:

Cyclops doesn't actually exist, only in the writer's mind. Much like Batman or Reed, his tactics are whatever the writer dreams up. So if the writer thinks that Cyclops would plan to use the Muramasa Blade, he will create a plan for him. He will know about the thunderclaps etc, and he will know that WWH is the strongest/most cunning he's ever been. So he won't mess around, and be humiliated like last time.

Originally posted by TheHulk
Actually We are called GammaFags instead or at least by one of the users call us that

Yeah...I'm not going down that route. Similar to Thorbags or whatever.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yeah...I'm not going down that route. Similar to Thorbags or whatever.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Nah, not trying to do that route, but am trying to cherry pick members from each team to form a single X-team to fight him, which is what I believe Cyclops would do, having seen what the Hulk is capable of. Actually, scratch that, all I wanted from the other teams was Wolverine.

The way I approach this fight, which is probably different from the Hulk supporters (I don't ever want to throw derogatory terms like Gammatard or fanboy), is this:

Cyclops doesn't actually exist, only in the writer's mind. Much like Batman or Reed, his tactics are whatever the writer dreams up. So if the writer thinks that Cyclops would plan to use the Muramasa Blade, he will create a plan for him. He will know about the thunderclaps etc, and he will know that WWH is the strongest/most cunning he's ever been. So he won't mess around, and be humiliated like last time.

When Kuurth came, what did he do? He cherry-picked people from across the X-world, using Pixie to bring them to Utopia to try and stop Kuurth. I'm doing exactly the same thing, only this time I'm using resources that weren't used by Cyclops.

When I read 'curren X-men' I took it to mean no one who's dead, or been kicked out....

Originally posted by The Sorrow
Then you would be removing that person from the battle field which would be self-BFR and they also had prep in that occasion which they don't have here. There is no specified location, it will be a neutral setting it wasn't stipulated the fight was on Utopia. Having characters leaving the battlefield to go and gather weapons for example would be against the rules.

Lol no I didn't!!!!

TheSorrow,I never had them leaving the battlefield.

This is how it would go in my plan.

Hulk attacks.

Cyclops sees him attacking. Gets Emma to contact the Stepford Cuckoos.

The Cuckoos send out the message telling the other X-men. Links people to Cyclops.

Cyclops explains to Wolverine, who currently does NOT hang out with Scott. Tells him to come on over, and bring the blade. And not to worry about airport security, as he'll be travelling by Magik's portals.

So nobody actually leaves the battlefield. So no self-BFR. Wolverine is no longer with the Extinction team, so he won't be present when the Hulk shows up - much like Juggernaut didn't hang out at the mansion, so wasn't there when the Hulk showed up.

As for it being prep, again, I reference the Kuurth fight. Cyclops had plans in his head already to deal with the Juggernaut, but once he saw it didn't work (due to Kuurth's upgrades) he made up new plans on the fly.

Originally posted by TheHulk
Dude DarkSaint actually "changed" the rules

Lol nope, I never changed the rules, I never even broke them. I just happened to actually read the rules, and understand them.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Lol nope, I never changed the rules, I never even broke them. I just happened to actually read the rules, and understand them.

Originally posted by TheHulk
Actually I bthink it's US who got the rules wrongly

Lol who's us? You and I? Or are you talking about yourself and Sorrow?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Lol who's us? You and I? Or are you talking about yourself and Sorrow?

No, I just wanted it down on record whether you're accusing me of not understanding the rules lol

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
No, I just wanted it down on record whether you're accusing me of not understanding the rules lol

If Hulk did not held back agaisnt Juggernaut who tried to KO Hulk but instead got a BFR who you think would have won plus hulk was also not fighting seriously not just holding back

Originally posted by TheHulk
First of all let me ask you this question

If Hulk did not held back agaisnt Juggernaut who tried to KO Hulk but instead got a BFR who you think would have won plus hulk was also not fighting seriously not just holding back

....that's not what we were discussing. If I answer your question, you can also have the courtesy to answer mine.

Depends on the stips and the writer. Is Hulk allowed to increase to WBH mode? Is Juggernaut allowed to increase to 8th day levels? Etc.

If yes to both questions, Hulk, I guess. But I don't know that much about Trion/8th day to say.

I cant believe this is still going on..

Originally posted by TheHulk
First of all let me ask you this question

If Hulk did not held back agaisnt Juggernaut who tried to KO Hulk but instead got a BFR who you think would have won plus hulk was also not fighting seriously not just holding back

Without BFR WWH would have trouble against Juggs. He was already shown to be struggling, so resorted to BFR not necessarily because he could not win, but just because it would be hard and BFR was efficient in the circumstances. The stips of this fight is No BFR. But Im really not sure just how powerful Colossernaut is compared to Classic Juggs.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Lol no I didn't!!!!

TheSorrow,I never had them leaving the battlefield.

This is how it would go in my plan.

Hulk attacks.

Cyclops sees him attacking. Gets Emma to contact the Stepford Cuckoos.

The Cuckoos send out the message telling the other X-men. Links people to Cyclops.

Cyclops explains to Wolverine, who currently does NOT hang out with Scott. Tells him to come on over, and bring the blade.

Are stepford cuckoos considered X-men?

As for the blade Id personally say leave weapons out of this, but I think its down to the OP really, if when he said re-match he had the intention of using any weapon at their disposal.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Are stepford cuckoos considered X-men?

As for the blade Id personally say leave weapons out of this, but I think its down to the OP really, if when he said re-match he had the intention of using any weapon at their disposal.

Meh, when the Hulk attacked the X-mansion last time, it was the Cuckoos who called out to the various X-teams for help. I guess you could replace them with a mobile phone or whatever for Cyclps to call...

With regards to weapons, again, last time he attacked, they tried crashing the Blackbird into him, so using outside weapons (or makeshift weapons lol) isn't out of the ordinary. Plus, Wolverine already knows it has a very good chance of working on the Hulk, having seen Daken in action.

Also, I kinda think its a bit late to be changing stips/clarifying, particularly as Colossus-BigC hasn't said a word all this time....

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
....that's not what we were discussing. If I answer your question, you can also have the courtesy to answer mine.

Depends on the stips and the writer. Is Hulk allowed to increase to WBH mode? Is Juggernaut allowed to increase to 8th day levels? Etc.

If yes to both questions, Hulk, I guess. But I don't know that much about Trion/8th day to say.

Hulk-No Limit to Power and can draw it anytime he wants and deadly enough to literally melt High Heralds/Elite Top Tier and destroy a solar system worth of planets.

Juggernaut-Has a limit to his power hell it all comes from Cytorrak,and Cytorrak set himself a limit to how much power he will give to any avatar so technically Full Powered Juggernaut is classic Juggernaut,8th day is a juggernaut but more power given from Cytorrak,so no he can't go 8th lvl unless Cytorrak wants to give Juggy more power and believe or not fiction or non fiction that's not for us to decide it's Cytorrak from fantasy land.

Originally posted by TheHulk
Hulks infinite power and Juggernaut Power gain From Cytorrak is too different

Hulk-No Limit to Power and can draw it anytime he wants and deadly enough to literally melt High Heralds/Elite Top Tier and destroy a solar system worth of planets.

Juggernaut-Has a limit to his power hell it all comes from Cytorrak,and Cytorrak set himself a limit to how much power he will give to any avatar so technically Full Powered Juggernaut is classic Juggernaut,8th day is a juggernaut but more power given from Cytorrak,so no he can't go 8th lvl unless Cytorrak wants to give Juggy more power and believe or not fiction or non fiction that's not for us to decide it's Cytorrak from fantasy land.

Cool, thanks. Now, to answer my question - who were you referring to when you were talking about not understanding the rules?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Cool, thanks. Now, to answer my question - who were you referring to when you were talking about not understanding the rules?

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
I cant believe this is still going on..

Without BFR WWH would have trouble against Juggs. He was already shown to be struggling, so resorted to BFR not necessarily because he could not win, but just because it would be hard and BFR was efficient in the circumstances. The stips of this fight is No BFR. But Im really not sure just how powerful Colossernaut is compared to Classic Juggs.