Originally posted by -Pr-
Even the fact that a regular Colossus did for a time doesn't somehow count?
Colossus got his arms broke messing with Hulk. The fight lasted as long as Hulk allowed it to last. Pr, even you yourself admitted Colossonaut doesnt have the fts putting him up there with the big guys.
Originally posted by carver9
Colossus got his arms broke messing with Hulk. The fight lasted as long as Hulk allowed it to last. Pr, even you yourself admitted Colossonaut doesnt have the fts putting him up there with the big guys.
Except now he has no healing factor to help him with Colossonaut's punches.
Or arms and legs to hit him with, either, come to think of it...
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Except now he has no healing factor to help him with Colossonaut's punches.Or arms and legs to hit him with, either, come to think of it...
Show me a scan of Magik or Hope removing someone's healing factor. They thought Darwin could adapt and remove Hulks healing factor (an Omega mutant) and he failed and almost got killed during the process.
Originally posted by carver9
Colossus got his arms broke messing with Hulk. The fight lasted as long as Hulk allowed it to last. Pr, even you yourself admitted Colossonaut doesnt have the fts putting him up there with the big guys.
Yes, because Hulk liked being phased in to the ground and slashed in the eyes.
But he would do better in a fight than normal Colossus, which is my point.
Originally posted by -Pr-
Yes, because Hulk liked being phased in to the ground and slashed in the eyes.But he would do better in a fight than normal Colossus, which is my point.
Lol...good point. Hulk still didn't take it serious and was actually stating that he wasn't there to hurt them.
I agree but he would still get manhandled by Hulk. How will this team drop Hulk because the super strength that this team have isn't enough.
Originally posted by carver9
Lol...good point. Hulk still didn't take it serious and was actually stating that he wasn't there to hurt them.I agree but he would still get manhandled by Hulk. How will this team drop Hulk because the super strength that this team have isn't enough.
Yet he wasn't stomping all over them.
Magneto, Namor, Colossus, Cyclops, Emma, Magik and Hope aren't enough to hurt him? Seriously?
Originally posted by carver9
Show me a scan of Magik or Hope removing someone's healing factor. They thought Darwin could adapt and remove Hulks healing factor (an Omega mutant) and he failed and almost got killed during the process.
Elixir did it when WWH attacked the mansion. He's still on Utopia. Hope can copy powers. Ergo, Hope can cancel (or at least, weaken his healing factor).
Magik admittedly can't. But what she can do is use her portals offensively to remove limbs. Plus Hope can also then copy this ability, so we have two portal users.
Colossus would only be there as big shiny bait. Hulk would swing his fist towards him - only there's a portal where Piotr's face used to be. It travels up his arm, then shuts close. Hulk has lost his left arm.
He tries with his right. Same result. He now has no arms.
He lifts his leg up to stamp on the ground. Another portal. He now has no legs.
Hope then takes Colossus' powers, and Elixir's powers. Runs up to Hulk, rolls him onto his front with his head in the sea (am assuming it takes place on the beach). Pins him there with little effort and cancels out his healing factor.
Dr Nemesis comes up. Unloads both his guns into the Hulk. Infects the Hulk with cancers, Ebola, Aids, leprosy, the Plague, and the common cold lol. Leaves.
Magneto erects a forcefield around Hope and Hulk. All Hulk can do now is spit infected blood lol, but thanks to the field and Colossus' powers, nobody is infected.
He then gets pinned for the count. Plan 1, complete. Cyclops goes for a beer.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Elixir did it when WWH attacked the mansion. He's still on Utopia. Hope can copy powers. Ergo, Hope can cancel (or at least, weaken his healing factor).Magik admittedly can't. But what she can do is use her portals offensively to remove limbs. Plus Hope can also then copy this ability, so we have two portal users.
Colossus would only be there as big shiny bait. Hulk would swing his fist towards him - only there's a portal where Piotr's face used to be. It travels up his arm, then shuts close. Hulk has lost his left arm.
He tries with his right. Same result. He now has no arms.
He lifts his leg up to stamp on the ground. Another portal. He now has no legs.
Hope then takes Colossus' powers, and Elixir's powers. Runs up to Hulk, rolls him onto his front with his head in the sea (am assuming it takes place on the beach). Pins him there with little effort and cancels out his healing factor.
Dr Nemesis comes up. Unloads both his guns into the Hulk. Infects the Hulk with cancers, Ebola, Aids, leprosy, the Plague, and the common cold lol. Leaves.
Magneto erects a forcefield around Hope and Hulk. All Hulk can do now is spit infected blood lol, but thanks to the field and Colossus' powers, nobody is infected.
He then gets pinned for the count. Plan 1, complete. Cyclops goes for a beer.
Is Elixir in this battle and what she did was temporary...he overcame that via will power. I asked who in this battle has removed a healing factor.
Show me Magik removing limbs.
look at the x-men fear itself she teleported herself, colossus and kitty along with part of the ground they were stranding on so they had a platform into the crimson cosmos....she can remove limbs if she wants to...nightcrawler teleported bastion's arm off. magik is way more powerful than kurt as a teleporter. she can teleport across dimensions, space and time. and unlike other teleporters she does not have to touch the target. heck she does not need to be in the same dimension to do it.
Originally posted by nwg202
look at the x-men fear itself she teleported herself, colossus and kitty along with part of the ground they were stranding on so they had a platform into the crimson cosmos....she can remove limbs if she wants to...nightcrawler teleported bastion's arm off. magik is way more powerful than kurt as a teleporter. she can teleport across dimensions, space and time. and unlike other teleporters she does not have to touch the target. heck she does not need to be in the same dimension to do it.
So basically you have no proof. Teleporting dirt is different than teleporting a limb of a being that is nigh indestructible. Wolverine had a hard time cutting him with adamantium claws and you think Magik can teleport his limbs off? That ain't happening.
Now since we are past that, show me proof that Magik or Hope can withstand this.
Hope can copy Colossus and magik does not need to be in the battle field.
She can affect the battle from another place plus she has stood up to legions blast. she puts on her mystical armor and she can take a load of punishment from class 100 demons like sym. the same demon who broke adamantium.
Look at what kitty did, she phased him through rock and it hurt him bad. All the rocks were stuck in his arms. hes not as indestructible as you think.He was bleeding all over the place. Bastion is is uber tough as well if kurt can port of limbs magik can do whatever kurt can do and more...jeez you really one big fan boy. what do you need an actual scan of magik doing it to the hulk?
if photon (a lightspeeder) can't tag magik hulk wont either.
She can use her disc's as sheilds and bfr anything thrown at her. I have scans of magik using her discs as sheilds from capt americas shield lasers and bullets and other blasts..and she can redirect them back on the hulk. She's schooled the avengers a couple of times as a young girl...
Originally posted by carver9
So basically you have no proof. Teleporting dirt is different than teleporting a limb of a being that is nigh indestructible. Wolverine had a hard time cutting him with adamantium claws and you think Magik can teleport his limbs off? That ain't happening.
Nigh indestructible - until his healing factor is shut off. Which has happened before - when Elixir affected him last time, X-23 clawed his eyes out. When the Gamma Corps weakened him, Gray snapped his neck. So much for indestructible. And yes, Elixir can be in this fight, as I said before, OP said X-men, not Extinction X-men.
Now since we are past that
We're not, as your argument hinged on the Hulk being 'nigh indestructible', which he isn't.
show me proof that Magik or Hope can withstand this.
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/165/25795620zi2.jpg/
Magik does not have to. She's in another dimension, merrily opening portals. Hope can take it - all she needs is a Wolverine-level healing factor stacked on Colossus durability. If only we had mutants with that....oh wait, we do.
Magneto can turn Colossus into a unstoppable wrecking ball travelling at hypersonic speeds. If ever Hulk get his hands on pete, Magik can simply teleport him out of Hulk's hands.
Honestly there are so many ways this team stomps the Hulk w/o PIS.
I'm not even getting into Magik's time manipulation. Why don't you look at Magik's full powerset to understand what your dealing with when she is fully powered and blood lusted. At her darkest mood she is a hell lord. Magik formed the lords of the splinter realms. which members include mephisto, stannish she killed archenemy who caused Surtur to flee in fear...
Hope is potentially an even bigger threat.
