Originally posted by Sin I AM
the destroyer isnt part of the pantheon so y include it?
I would include it initially because it's a artifact that belongs to Asgard. But my post was also more in connection to the scans that was posted on the previous page and the discussion between Rage and C, whether or not Villians was to be include and all that jazz. And if villians etc are included then imo, the Destroyer can't be ruled out as a artifact available to Asgard.
Originally posted by Utrigita
It have never been associated with Olympus though, always Asgard, so I think it's fair to say that it belongs with Asgard and can be used in a contest between them.
True, but it has power in it that doesn't belong to the Asgardian pantheon. Vishnu, Zeus, Quetzalcoatl, etc.. all add their power to it. Kinda unfair to use it in a pantheon war between the two (Asgard and Olympus).
Originally posted by zopzop
I wouldn't count the Destroyer in this fight. Sure it resides in Asgard but every skyfather on Earth added a fraction of their power to it, this includes Zeus. I'd disqualify that.
Lol.
The Destroyer is still part of Asgard's armory, what the hell would Zeus do if one of them decided to inhabit it?
Besides, Asgard still created the Destroyer, the Skyfathers just added a portion of their power later.
I don't even understand why it was necessary to include them, f*cking Thomas. In terms of weapon making, Asgard has always been top notch.
Originally posted by zopzop
True, but it has power in it that doesn't belong to the Asgardian pantheon. Vishnu, Zeus, Quetzalcoatl, etc.. all add their power to it. Kinda unfair to use it in a pantheon war between the two (Asgard and Olympus).
How often is it taken into consideration that the Destroyer is ampified by the head of the other Pantheons? I frankly can't recall a single time. And while it may be unfair given who created it, there is no doubt about where it belong. Which was my point, that if we include villians etc. then the Destroyer armor should be included on the side of the Asgardians, regardless of Zeus enchantment because the armor given it's story belongs with Asgard.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Besides, Asgard still created the Destroyer, the Skyfathers just added a portion of their power later.
I was under the impression that Vishnu and Zeus oversaw the creation of the Destroyer and then enchanted it, upon it's completion. I might be recalling the scans wrong though.
Something like that. Odin created it in his realm, then IIRC after it was done, he took it to the other heads to place a fraction of their power into it.
Thomas pretty much retconned most of Asgardian lore like that. Thank god the only thing that has any relevance from that era anymore are the Celestial encounters.
I'll dig and see if there's a retelling that retcons the revelation.
While we're at it, I just read Thor: The Deviant Saga #1 and they have a Universe destroying weapon in their armory that warps reality. I don't want to include it in this battle personally, just mentioning it. Wonder if they have other comparable devices hidden in that secret weapons chamber. Although it'd be cool, Asgard is going to come off looking a bit silly, as it's a post-Siege world.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Besides, Asgard still created the Destroyer, the Skyfathers just added a portion of their power later.
They crafted the armor, but it was the fact that every "Sky Lord" blessed it with a portion of their power that made it 'all powerful'. The narration itself states that Odin took it to the other skyfathers for their blessing of power.
That thing has godly energy from outside the Asgardian pantheon.
Originally posted by zopzop
They crafted the armor, but it was the fact that every "Sky Lord" blessed it with a portion of their power that made it 'all powerful'. The narration itself states that Odin took it to the other skyfathers for their blessing of power.That thing has godly energy from outside the Asgardian pantheon.
I know what was said.
I still see no reason why the Asgardian Destroyer shouldn't be counted for Asgard because when it comes down to it, the armor's rightful place is in the Asgardian armory, the realm it was forged in.
Not to mention, Big-C was referencing Typhoon and shit.
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
iron man/thor is sort of a retelling. when diablo entered the destroyer it said he had nigh omnipotent power because all of the skyfathers empowered it...
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