WWH vs Shadowcat

Started by ExodusCloak3 pages

Originally posted by psycho gundam
sounds like PIS.

I was So amazed by magneto that i must have forgotten about her.

She's been stuck in phase mode a long time ago. They went to Mr Fantastic to fix her. She's always been able to survive without food, air, water in phased mode.

Oh well, looks like we hit an empasse then

...But Kitty can Hurt WWH and WWH still doesn't have anything that can hurt, kill or move Kitty.

k hurt him how? if there is a time to post her feats it's now, she's in around 5 threads a year maximum

What's stopping her from fazing his head off his neck. Or his brain..

^ Well, she's never detached anything via phasing before, unless you count the alternate reality in which she phased off Logan's claws. I doubt it's canon.

Her only means of truly hurting him, based on what we've seen, is phasing him into another object - like the ground. But in the WWH/X-Men story, she tried that and he just busted through the earth. Granted, she didn't pull him that far under, but she /was/ trying to kill him. She showed instant remorse afterwords when she thought that she indeed had, so we can pretty much assume that he's just too durable... Or that the writer is dumb.

We also recently saw Sebastian Shaw call her bluff when she threatened to solidify her arm in his chest cavity. He knew that she would lose a hand if she tried it and commented on how she only did it because she couldn't unphase at the time and there was no risk. If she was more in control, she could of stuck something in him, but she didn't and Emma had to take control of the situation.

Originally posted by SamZED
What's stopping her from fazing his head off his neck. Or his brain..

Scans?

I'm with Psycho, I'd like to see her stuff, instead of just hearing about it.

Originally posted by Konton
We also recently saw Sebastian Shaw call her bluff when she threatened to solidify her arm in his chest cavity. He knew that she would lose a hand if she tried it and commented on how she only did it because she couldn't unphase at the time and there was no risk. If she was more in control, she could of stuck something in him, but she didn't and Emma had to take control of the situation.
a weaker, dying hulk already "meh'd" someone that actually did it and did it better decades ago:

Thor looks pissed. Hulks in for it now.

Originally posted by cdtm
Thor looks pissed. Hulks in for it now.

That fight had such potential but as usual Marvel chickened out and ended it in a stalemate.

Eh, you can't really argue that Vison "does it better" because the mechanics behind the phasing is so different.

Vision couldn't do what Kitty did on Breakworld, I'd imagine. Or what she did with the bullet.

She KOd Loa by phasing through her, too.

not really; shadowcat makes her atoms permeate another object by simply bypassing the object's atoms, the vision reduces how many atoms his body is made up of and the space they take up allowing him to pass through objects, and then the contrary ability to add more atoms to his body.

vision would have gotten the job done on shaw and it would have been even more damaging than what shadowcat could have ever hoped to do with the same technique

her other feats are not what i'm talking about, but since you brought it up, yes he is incapable of those

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vision actually CAN sort of effect others with his density control. when the hulk finally succumbed to his condition after that fight, making both hulk and banner's atomic structure expand into wraith states, the vision was the one who fixed them with his power by matching their density and bringing it back to normal.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
a weaker, dying hulk already "meh'd" someone that actually did it and did it better decades ago:

Vision didn't solidify his arm, nor there was an intent to. It only showed Hulk being hurt when V phased through him, what more if Vision solidified his arm. Still the fact still remains that there is nothing Hulk can do to Kitty because of the nature of their powers. Hulk can't punch Kitty, he can't BFR her, he can't use thunderclap on her, he can't even outlive her because Kitty can become immortal if she stayed phased forever since she can stop her bodily functions while phased. But Shadowcat can BFR him. That means he can't beat Kitty nor he will be beating any X team with Kitty in it.

Kitty cant BFR him though. The ground trick doesn't work on WWH.

She could detach herself from gravity I guess, but, uh, that's more like BFRing herself.

Kitty would kill Hulk with no PIS or CIS.
She could simply remove his brain and it be over.
it would take hulk days to regenerate a new brain if he didnt die since their would be no rage to feed his regen.. at the very least it would be a temp ko for the 10 count.

What if Kitty phased a bowling ball sized chunk of adamantium into hulks head?

won't work. hulk has his anti-adamantium helmet in his back pocket for such an occasion.

Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
What if Kitty phased a bowling ball sized chunk of adamantium into hulks head?

Hulk would become smarter and destroy her.

Originally posted by SamZED
Hulk would become smarter and destroy her.

Originally posted by Konton
Kitty cant BFR him though. The ground trick doesn't work on WWH.

She could detach herself from gravity I guess, but, uh, that's more like BFRing herself.

The ground trick will totally work. If Kitty phased the ground beneath WWH, then Hulk will just fall through the ground, which is totally within Kitty's capabilities. Hulk will fall through miles and miles of phased earth. That's BFR. The only way it won't work is if WWH could fly or levitate.