Re: WWH vs Shadowcat
Originally posted by psy_blade
No PIS, CIS for Kitty.Phasing is auto-on even when she's not willing it like how it was before.
Consider Kitty's highest showings like phasing the bullet, phasing a team in the middle of an atomic explosion and pseudo teleporting.
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Originally posted by psy_blade
The ground trick will totally work. If Kitty phased the ground beneath WWH, then Hulk will just fall through the ground, which is totally within Kitty's capabilities. Hulk will fall through miles and miles of phased earth. That's BFR. The only way it won't work is if WWH could fly or levitate.
And then what? Hulk would get out of there. It's not like the core of the planet would melt him.
(It totally failed at the end of Planet Hulk.)
Hulk would get out of here, and since it's a statlemate, because Kitty has no way to hurt him, and since WWH is intelligent, cunning and ruthless, Hulk would find way to beats her.
How about threating her to snap the dick of Colossus if she don't let him win?
And btw, Kitty wouldn't the first "untouchable" character Hulk would have beaten. In the past, Hulk beat the being Zzzzzzax or whatever, you know, the energy being. He also beat Vision...
The dude is a walking ass-kickin' machine, and Kitty don't have a prayer on that.
Originally posted by BouboumasterThis
And then what? Hulk would get out of there. It's not like the core of the planet would melt him.
(It totally failed at the end of Planet Hulk.)Hulk would get out of here, and since it's a statlemate, because Kitty has no way to hurt him, and since WWH is intelligent, cunning and ruthless, Hulk would find way to beats her.
How about threating her to snap the dick of Colossus if she don't let him win?
And btw, Kitty wouldn't the first "untouchable" character Hulk would have beaten. In the past, Hulk beat the being Zzzzzzax or whatever, you know, the energy being. He also beat Vision...
The dude is a walking ass-kickin' machine, and Kitty don't have a prayer on that.
Originally posted by Bouboumaster
And then what? Hulk would get out of there. It's not like the core of the planet would melt him.
(It totally failed at the end of Planet Hulk.)Hulk would get out of here, and since it's a statlemate, because Kitty has no way to hurt him, and since WWH is intelligent, cunning and ruthless, Hulk would find way to beats her.
How about threating her to snap the dick of Colossus if she don't let him win?
And btw, Kitty wouldn't the first "untouchable" character Hulk would have beaten. In the past, Hulk beat the being Zzzzzzax or whatever, you know, the energy being. He also beat Vision...
The dude is a walking ass-kickin' machine, and Kitty don't have a prayer on that.
What do you mean "And then what?"? There's nothing for Hulk after that. Once Hulk falls through 10 miles of phased earth its over. Even if he busts out of there after some time, Kitty can just phase the ground again. It's BFR. It's not stalemate, Kitty wins.
While being totally immune to everything WWH can do, Kitty phases rocks and other stuff into the Hulk's skull until his IQ has increased enough for him to realize how silly it is to be "mad" all the time for no reason, shortly followed by his transformation back to Banner and silicon-dioxide-induced explosion of his head.
Originally posted by psy_blade
The ground trick will totally work. If Kitty phased the ground beneath WWH, then Hulk will just fall through the ground, which is totally within Kitty's capabilities. Hulk will fall through miles and miles of phased earth. That's BFR. The only way it won't work is if WWH could fly or levitate.
Kitty can't just phase out the ground like that. I mean, it would make sense, but she's never done it and she can't extend it for miles and miles. The only thing that could qualify that would be the bullet feat, but that's largely circumstantial. The bullet was magical, she physically bonded to it when she phased in, she was prepared to kill herself with the strain, etc.
I don't recall her ever phasing a surface for others to travel through. She always opts to phase the object/person through the surface instead.
Kitty can totally phase the ground like that. And she dosen't have to strain herself, she doesn't have to phase 10 miles down, she can just do 5 miles and that would be more than enough. It's still gonna be as high or as deep as 25 Eiffel towers on top of each other. She just does't do it but its within her powerset to do selective phasing. Besides, she has done more exotic things with her powers like phasing out of sync with earths rotation, giving the illusion that she can teleport or move really fast.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ When has she ever phased the environment (as opposed to an object/person)?
I'm not sure if she has. But it doesn't matter if she has done it before or not because she can do it. She can phase both inorganic and organic matter. She won't have any problems phasing dirt. We don't see Superman cooking eggs with his heatvision, but that doesn't mean he can't. That's really basic.
Originally posted by psy_bladeI think it does matter. I'm not disputing that she can phase a handful of soil. Or a 100 lbs of soil since she can phase her own body mass. But you're suggesting she can phase miles worth of the ground beneath Hulk's feet. That's a completely different order and far beyond anything I've seen her do barring the planet-killing bullet which would have cost her her life had it not been for the intervention of the X-Men.
I'm not sure if she has. But it doesn't matter if she has done it before