Magnus the Red (40k) vs. Sora, Riku, and Xemnas (KH)

Originally posted by NemeBro
You can remind me of them. estahuh

Well the gist of them are.

1. Teleport.
2. Super Strength.
3. ????
4. Profit.

Though in Xemnas's case, he has TKing like 9 buildings and a giant dragon structure to go along with it. So if Xemnas were to strengthen Sora and Riku's strikes, would that hurt this Magnus guy?

Originally posted by NemeBro
All right, we have faster than the eye can see movement at least, and cutting power that>Hercules', that's decent enough.

Also, the Rock Titan is apparently weaker than the Hydra. That's annoying.

Indeed. And don't forget, in order to cut the heads off Sora must beat the Hydra into submission, similar to what Herc struggled with. Sora also had more heads to deal with.

Originally posted by NemeBro
I have no idea what Riku and Xemnas have, but can Sora not stop time?

He cannot. KH2 Sora has no time stopping abilities. Can summon Genie though. And use Reflect, which stands up to mountain busting feats.

Originally posted by NemeBro
It's the biggest and strongest H-Bomb evar.

I cannot remember the calcs for the Titan feat sadly. Make Scream do them again! 😮

Originally posted by NemeBro
Titans that are weaker than Hydras. Sad.

Considering what the Hydra took to the head, not very wimpy. uhuh

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Well the gist of them are.

1. Teleport.
2. Super Strength.
3. ????
4. Profit.

Though in Xemnas's case, he has TKing like 9 buildings and a giant dragon structure to go along with it. So if Xemnas were to strengthen Sora and Riku's strikes, would that hurt this Magnus guy?

I am not really getting what you are proposing here.

And, well, Primarchs are absurdly durable. As in, surviving being hit by a Nova Cannon. Which is twelve times stronger than a Deathstrike Missile. Which is much stronger than Tsar Bomba. Granted, the Primarch in question was badly injured.

Oh, Magnus at some point in the book mentions physically busting mountains with his brothers, as well.

But mebbe, wouldn't do much per hit.

Indeed. And don't forget, in order to cut the heads off Sora must beat the Hydra into submission, similar to what Herc struggled with. Sora also had more heads to deal with.

I would argue Magnus is stronger than Hercules, though.

He cannot. KH2 Sora has no time stopping abilities.

Oh my. What are his speed feats then?

Can summon Genie though.

Genie is disturbingly unimpressive in the game.

And use Reflect, which stands up to mountain busting feats.

It... Does? 😐

I cannot remember the calcs for the Titan feat sadly. Make Scream do them again! 😮

Maybe later.

Considering what the Hydra took to the head, not very wimpy. uhuh

Magnus would kick its ass. estahuh

Originally posted by NemeBro
I am not really getting what you are proposing here.

And, well, Primarchs are absurdly durable. As in, surviving being hit by a Nova Cannon. Which is twelve times stronger than a Deathstrike Missile. Which is much stronger than Tsar Bomba. Granted, the Primarch in question was badly injured.

Oh, Magnus at some point in the book mentions physically busting mountains with his brothers, as well.

But mebbe, wouldn't do much per hit.

Remember how this Magnus guy used TK to make himself stronger? They do that. 😮

Also, what is this Magnus guy actually like?

Originally posted by NemeBro
I would argue Magnus is stronger than Hercules, though.

Would need feats for this and calcs for the Hercules feat. Not disagreeing, just need the numbers first.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Oh my. What are his speed feats then?

Teleporting. Does it in the Xigbar and Xaldin fights. Also fights Xemnas, who can teleport.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Genie is disturbingly unimpressive in the game.

Well he made a sandstorm disappear, lamenting that it was too easy. This sandstorm apparently went on forever.

Originally posted by NemeBro
It... Does? 😐

Si.

YouTube video

2:37 ish you see the mountain breaking apart and all that jazz.

3:00 you see the attack stopped in its tracks.

Side note: Damn, Master Xehanort is so friggin cool.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Remember how this Magnus guy used TK to make himself stronger? They do that. 😮

Hm, has he shown that degree of control? Magnus has demonstrated far more precise telekinesis than Xemnas has.

Also, what is this Magnus guy actually like?

Magnus the Red is every bit a scholar as much as he is a General. His physical stature and power is exceeded only by his incredible mental abilities, he is the Primarch possessing the most raw intelligence. He has devoted his massive intellect largely in the pursuit of the arcane, being the most naturally powerful and talented psyker alive short of his father, the Emperor of Mankind. He is intelligent, cultured, charismatic, and beyond all else, he is one of the few Primarchs shown to be kind and consider the needs and thoughts of mortals, even if he is not necessarily humble in his dealings with mortals. He also has a very strong, paternal bond with his Space Marine Legion, the Thousand Sons, and would go to any lengths to ensure their survival and protection. Magnus' fatal flaw is surely arrogance. To quote the man himself,"There is no power beyond my control," he believes himself the master of the power he wields, that of the Warp itself, but ultimately proves to be a pawn in the games of Tzeentch, Chaos God of Hope (Yes in 40k the god of Hope is a villainous entity, this is a very ****ed up universe).

This is a very lazy character analysis of Magnus the Red.

Would need feats for this and calcs for the Hercules feat. Not disagreeing, just need the numbers first.

Well, punching mountains apart for one. Also, can injure Primarchs physically, when Primarchs have shown incredible durability, some feats of which I mentioned.

Shin won't do them, apparently BloodRain did the originals.

Teleporting. Does it in the Xigbar and Xaldin fights. Also fights Xemnas, who can teleport.

Actual speed is better.

Well he made a sandstorm disappear, lamenting that it was too easy. This sandstorm apparently went on forever.

Pft. Magnus can do the same, with thoughts. He has the psychic power to stop the flow of time on a planet (Though this is banned, for obvios reasons).

Si.

YouTube video

2:37 ish you see the mountain breaking apart and all that jazz.

3:00 you see the attack stopped in its tracks.

Side note: Damn, Master Xehanort is so friggin cool.

That is a plateau. Not a mountain.

And... It was only the side.

And... The Reflega breaks apart and Terra is sent flying.

😐

Though yeah, Master Xehanort is cool.

Hm, he would of been a better choice than Riku.

Prolly would of picked him if I actually played BBS.

Actually Xehanort is a planet buster. Probably would not have been good for you to pick him.

Not that it matters. Based on character, Magnus would probably take this. Was hoping he'd be insanely stupid like Kenpachi, basically allowing for Sora and Co to get a few good hits in.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Actually Xehanort is a planet buster. Probably would not have been good for him.

Not that it matters. Based on character, Magnus would probably take this. Was hoping he'd be insanely stupid like Kenpachi, basically allowing for Sora and Co to get a few good hits in.

Xehanort is a planet-buster? O_o

Nah, Magnus isn't a stupid gai like that Kenpachi gai. He's supar smurtz.

Indeed.

Well actually, no. Didn't take out the whole planet. The magically protected castle remained and was changed into what you might remember as

Spoiler:
Castle Oblivion. Remember the card games? Bwahahaha.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Kefka would be beaten easily due to utter lack of anything resembling a speed feat though.

I don't know what the Ancients are.

Trance Kuja is a possibility but... Who here is a fan of that metrosexual? Haven't seen one for a while.

I am 🙂

I DON'T KNOW YOU I NEED AN ADULT.

Here's some more ideas on which characters Magnus could battle: Master Chief, Kain, Snake, Nathan Drake, that ******* from Skyrim, Raziel, Mario, Bowser, Samus, Exitar, Albert Wesker, Kratos, Dante, Sephiroth.

Kain vs. Magnus is a massive no want on my part.

But will consider the list.

Nathan Drake lolwut.

And Aura, if you're still unfamiliar with the Tsar bomba:

B1tch be big.

Holy shit, the difference is far more appreciable when I look at that chart.

Yeah, the scale is just ****ing crazy. I have no idea how powerful that would be or how big it would be. What does Mt stand for? Is that size or yield or what, because that is just freaking me out.

Edit:

Its Megatons

This is the Licorne. Its yield was 914 kilotons.

The Tsar bomba's was 50 megatons.

Be afraid.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Yeah, the scale is just ****ing crazy. I have no idea how powerful that would be or how big it would be. What does Mt stand for? Is that size or yield or what, because that is just freaking me out.

Mt stands for megatons.

Edit: As for power, it could pretty much annihilate a city the size of Paris.

Whoops, my edit was ninja'd haha.

Fun fact: Tsar Bomba was at first intended to be 100 Mt.

Hm.

Magnus can output more power than Tsar Bomba.

Lol.

Meh. Nothing compared to an output of a Kreegan hive-ship.

Eh.

Well it depends. The Tsar Bomba is really big, but I doubt its very efficient. All the energy would be spread out I'm thinking. So he wouldn't necessarily have to put out more energy than the entire bomb, just the amount that the Titan could tank. Like, maybe if you concentrated the entire 50 megatons into a single blast it would go right through like butter. Or maybe not.

Or something! IDK! Speak nerds!