Skaar vs. Thunderstrike

Originally posted by Damborgson
No, I'm basing it off the damage done to Thor and how Mangog resisted the attacks better than he did against Thunderstrike who is fairly weaker than Thor. He KO'd Mangog with one shot. Collateral damage is nice but for the most part not what matters.

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsMangog28v225.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsMangog29.jpg
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Thor got in a MINIMUM of 3 all out shots. 1 of which caught Mangog off guard. Even if we factor in the damage he took from the others, it still wouldn't have been enough to constitute a KO. It was jobbing. mangog was cut and stabbed by wolverine and that Asgardian also. Unless there was some special propert to the blade then that shouldn't have happened. And Wolverine cutting him most certainly shouldn't have happened. Thor didn't just knock him over or something. He stunned him for a long period of time. Sure Mangog recovered, but considering what he has taken before and recovered even quicker:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsMangog22.jpg

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsMangog23.jpg

^ That would imply jobbing by Mangog again.

I'm not downplaying Thor. A bull rush should have still been enough to Knock him over or something. But Mangog was hurt. He needed a good amount of time to recover and while he was down Thor even stood on his head...(which was awesome)

To me that issue was not so much a showing of Thunderstrikes power as much as it was a ver obvious showing of Mangog jobbing. Not downplaying Thunderstrikes power either but you have to agree....that was not an average for what Mangog has taken.

Pretty much agree with all of this.

TBH, if we go by classic Mangog showings, even Thor's beatdown of Mangog could be seen as jobbing, despite its awesomeness. But yeah, it took an insane amount of punishment and Mangog having his guard down to accomplish it.

Originally posted by Nietzschean
cliffhanger image.

i dont know to me it wasnt much of a jobbing.. since to me a hail marry all out jumping mace smash is different than the a swinging bat swing.. u seem to be too focused on how u want Mangog represented in the fight rather than the power class he was shown to be at.

I think u be pissed if u saw how Marvel represented Mangog in a what if with eric Masterson and the avengers fighting him if u have issues with him in this story.

I have no problem with Wolverine or Grunny piercing it. it's wolverine shtick and grunny had a sharp magic asgardian sword which is probably adamantium.

has Mangog faced piercing damage in the past?

k.

meh you can call it what you want. But a character weaker than Thor, using one melee attack to put down Mangog who took 3-4 arguably stronger blows in succession does not add up.

I want him to be at the level he was at before. And he was not. Thats why Mangog jobbed. Or some unexplained weakness or whatever. Point being: Mangog was not as powerful as he was.

Nah. As long as its a what if idc. I like Thunderstrike and I'm not attempting to downplay him. I'm just saying this was not a good showing for Mangog. A pretty weak one intact.

Difference in opinion I guess.

Well Asgardian blades and such. Not sure of any other real concrete specific weapon piercing feats though.

Originally posted by cdtm
Pretty much agree with all of this.

TBH, if we go by classic Mangog showings, even Thor's beatdown of Mangog could be seen as jobbing, despite its awesomeness.

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/MarvelFanfare051-37.jpg

Originally posted by cdtm

TBH, if we go by classic Mangog showings, even Thor's beatdown of Mangog could be seen as jobbing, despite its awesomeness. But yeah, it took an insane amount of punishment and Mangog having his guard down to accomplish it.

Originally posted by Damborgson
k.

meh you can call it what you want. But a character weaker than Thor, using one melee attack to put down Mangog who took 3-4 arguably stronger blows in succession does not add up.

I want him to be at the level he was at before. And he was not. Thats why Mangog jobbed. Or some unexplained weakness or whatever. Point being: Mangog was not as powerful as he was.

Nah. As long as its a what if idc. I like Thunderstrike and I'm not attempting to downplay him. I'm just saying this was not a good showing for Mangog. A pretty weak one intact.

Difference in opinion I guess.

Well Asgardian blades and such. Not sure of any other real concrete specific weapon piercing feats though.

how about if we reinterpret the picture and just say that TS manage to slightly stagger him back more from surprise of the attack than the brunt of the attack and he stepped back on his own. he didnt pass out but simply fell back since he is in space with no footing, is that better?

Originally posted by Nietzschean
how about if we reinterpret the picture and just say that TS manage to slightly stagger him back more from surprise of the attack than the brunt of the attack and he stepped back on his own. he didnt pass out but simply fell back since he is in space with no footing, is that better?

But it didn't unfortunately. He got Ko'd.

I really want to see more Thunderstrike stories in the future and i hope Defalco doesnt screw the pooch like he did Eric in his series..

I do 2. TS is still a badass. Even though I preferred Erik.

Originally posted by Damborgson
I do 2. TS is still a badass. Even though I preferred Erik.

Never bn a fan of the bringing back dead heroes.. its sloppy writing most of the time. but, for years i was hoping for Eric to make a come back even though I knew he had crossed over where even Odin couldnt bring him back if he wanted too. I was hoping for a time travel paradox/alternate reality.

I dont know why so many Thor fans disliked Eric, cause i am a heavy Thor fan and I liked Eric..

by the way it is Eric with a C... not a K.

Originally posted by Nietzschean
me too.. I was torn between them not reviving characters and reviving them.

Never bn a fan of the bringing back dead heroes.. its sloppy writing most of the time. but, for years i was hoping for Eric to make a come back even though I knew he had crossed over where even Odin couldnt bring him back if he wanted too. I was hoping for a time travel paradox/alternate reality.

I dont know why so many Thor fans disliked Eric, cause i am a heavy Thor fan and I liked Eric..

by the way it is Eric with a C... not a K.

I just don't like it when they are recklessly killed. What was the point of killing Thor? He'll be back in January. :/ Stupid.

That'd be good. I just want to have him back in action ha...

EriK needs to make a comeback.

Eric

Skaar wins.

Skaar.

Eric as Thor would win, though.