Re: Feat WAR! Lobo vs Hulk
-Strength--draw (though lobo best on-panel is likely>hulk's)
-Striking Power--draw
-Healing/Regen--lobo
-Raw Speed--bo
-Combat Speed--bo
-Durability--draw/edge to bo
-Damage Soak--draw/edge to lobo
-Combat Smarts--bo for sure
-Greats Hyperbolic Statement--hulk
Who wins?? always hard betting against hulk in these types of brick fights but i'd say a slight edge to lobo. be an awesome fraggin fight.....
Originally posted by Sundipped
I always thought the 2 go hand in hand.Now I'm not defending Hulk but I noticed you completely shitted on him. 😘 Diarrhea like.
Nah, not shitted, its just that comparing in a feat war is like comparing rocket raccoon with bugs bunny....toonforce will win. Especially when Lobo has feats like scaring his own hair to grow, fighting whilst headless and forcing his own writer to change the comic story....
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Let's be honest here, Hulk is above Lobo in physical strength. He takes the win over everyone this side of Thanos and even then, I'd give it to him if sufficiently enraged. This is a post Pak world gentlemen.
Does Hulk have a feat beating the city compression feat then?
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Let's be honest here, Hulk is above Lobo in physical strength. He takes the win over everyone this side of Thanos and even then, I'd give it to him if sufficiently enraged. This is a post Pak world gentlemen.
i agree--in theory hulk would be stronger. but the thread specifies FEATS and lobo's illogical 'stellar' feat is better than anything on panel that hulk has i think. so using JUST feats (given the thread) lobo should win. but it IS hulk, so i couldn't bring myself to allow for anything more than a draw. 😮
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Durability is what a character can endure without visible injury or damage.Damage soak is how much damage and pain a character can accumulate before being KO'd or killed.
But is'nt it all durability up until the point a character starts to show visible signs his opponents attacks are taking a toll?
Originally posted by Sundipped
But is'nt it all durability up until the point a character starts to show visible signs his opponents attacks are taking a toll?
Depends on your personal take on it. Perhaps endurance/stamina is a better descriptor of damage soak in the vein of how it's typically used on the forums.
Punisher seems to be the best example (at least for a street level character). He's no more durable than a normal human being, but the amount of damage his body can take and his pain threshold are pretty insane. Thor's a good example for a high herald, too. He's not the most durable of them, but his ability to power through pain and inflicted damage is pretty epic. Durability, to me, suggests the ability to "no sell" attacks and damage soak is how well you handle attacks that you do feel.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Does Hulk have a feat beating the city compression feat then?
- Grey Hulk one shotting an asteroid twice the size of Earth when propelled.
- Sending concussive forces throughout entire dimensions when colliding with Ironclad.
- World Breaker destroying a planet along with 3 other heralds (One as powerful as the Silver Surfer IIRC) and an army of Mindless Ones by trading a punch with an equal.
- Threatening to break off a piece of the continent just by taking a step.
- Going toe to toe with Hercules, Iron Man, Namor, Wonder Man and IIRC She-Hulk while dying.
- Going toe to toe with a crazed Thor.
- Thunderclapping away an attack that destroys a cosmos/Universe.
- Punching through a timestorm that even Kang's time travel technology was useless against.
- Walking through an amped Vector's blast that even tore apart reality.
There's probably more but whatever.
Originally posted by leonidas
i agree--in theory hulk would be stronger. but the thread specifies FEATS and lobo's illogical 'stellar' feat is better than anything on panel that hulk has i think. so using JUST feats (given the thread) lobo should win. but it IS hulk, so i couldn't bring myself to allow for anything more than a draw. 😮
Meh, Hulk has more impressive showings imo.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusThis needs to be thrown out.
- Grey Hulk one shotting an asteroid twice the size of Earth when propelled.
It is so far beyond what ANY version of Hulk has ever done that it's borderline laughable... Not to mention that characters in the strength class of Thing are generally not known for their planet-busting(++) abilities... ermm
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Depends on your personal take on it. Perhaps endurance/stamina is a better descriptor of damage soak in the vein of how it's typically used on the forums.Punisher seems to be the best example (at least for a street level character). He's no more durable than a normal human being, but the amount of damage his body can take and his pain threshold are pretty insane. Thor's a good example for a high herald, too. He's not the most durable of them, but his ability to power through pain and inflicted damage is pretty epic. Durability, to me, suggests the ability to "no sell" attacks and damage soak is how well you handle attacks that you do feel.
Ok so going by this it seems that damage soak is mostly attributed to sheer force of will and determination while taking massive damage. aka "the fighting spirit".
Durability is more so just being invulnerable starting from base state to a certain extent.
Originally posted by JakeTheBankQuantify the feat then. What would busting an asteroid 2x larger than earth be akin to?
Honestly, I don't see the issue with the asteroid busting.I think it would be easier to break apart an asteroid bigger than a planet than a planet itself due to composition. *shrug*
See the problem here?
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
- Grey Hulk one shotting an asteroid twice the size of Earth when propelled.
- Sending concussive forces throughout entire dimensions when colliding with Ironclad.
- World Breaker destroying a planet along with 3 other heralds (One as powerful as the Silver Surfer IIRC) and an army of Mindless Ones by trading a punch with an equal.
- Threatening to break off a piece of the continent just by taking a step.
- Going toe to toe with Hercules, Iron Man, Namor, Wonder Man and IIRC She-Hulk while dying.
- Going toe to toe with a crazed Thor.
- Thunderclapping away an attack that destroys a cosmos/Universe.
- Punching through a timestorm that even Kang's time travel technology was useless against.
- Walking through an amped Vector's blast that even tore apart reality.There's probably more but whatever.
i see all of those as testaments to striking power, not strength. it's a fine difference, maybe, but still, to me those all fit striking power.