Originally posted by carver9This In LoBo Fanboy Logic does not make any logic to them.
Hulk was in the heart of a planets explosion that took out 3 heralds, a race full of Mindless Ones, along with other super humans as well. The blast was so powerful that it took out nearby planets. Hulk tanked it without a scratch and stood on the edge of a cliff without a scratch.Rage just posted Hulk combating and the results destroyed a freaking universe and Hulk was in the heart of this and didn't have a scratch.
Lobo can't hang with that. Hell fire? WWH has withstood that as well and how hot was the hellfire Lobo withstood?
Originally posted by carver9
Hulk was in the heart of a planets explosion that took out 3 heralds, a race full of Mindless Ones, along with other super humans as well. The blast was so powerful that it took out nearby planets. Hulk tanked it without a scratch and stood on the edge of a cliff without a scratch.
That's pretty good. Lobo destroyed a solar system with the exploding numbers technique, along with 'hundreds of millions of warships' (Fragtastic Voyage #1) Check page 1, there's another scan where Lobo destroys a solar system and is at the centre of it all.
Rage just posted Hulk combating and the results destroyed a freaking universe and Hulk was in the heart of this and didn't have a scratch.
Lobo can't hang with that. Hell fire? WWH has withstood that as well and how hot was the hellfire Lobo withstood? [/B]
Btw carver, am still awaiting those scans you promised me of Hulk tanking mystical negations of his healing factor - maybe this would be the perfect thread to post them?
Originally posted by carver9
No, Hulk biggest combat ft is destroying cities, destroying Continents and measuring the destruction precision to the point where a single human doesn't get not a single scratch. Again, read what was stated in WWH.
Oh, you mean the character statement from Cho, the biggest Hulk supporter ever? In which case, I trump your 7th smartest person's statement with Reed and Stark, who said that he HAS caused death and destruction. Read what was stated in Planet Hulk.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85this.
Agreed. Its like asking who'd win, Taz from Tazmania or Wolverine....
only change would be that it's not who would win, rather who looks more impressive on paper, and that's obviously going to go to tazz. toons are indestructible at least one level more so than abstracts
Originally posted by carver9
Hulk was in the heart of a planets explosion that took out 3 heralds, a race full of Mindless Ones, along with other super humans as well. The blast was so powerful that it took out nearby planets. Hulk tanked it without a scratch and stood on the edge of a cliff without a scratch.
Originally posted by carver9Rage just posted Hulk combating and the results destroyed a freaking universe and Hulk was in the heart of this and didn't have a scratch.
Lobo can't hang with that. Hell fire? WWH has withstood that as well and how hot was the hellfire Lobo withstood?
Etrigan is not hyperboleing, due to the fact that their little dive into the Runespout weakened them to the point of near death.
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In both instances, Lobo stands with nothing more than a sun tan.
Originally posted by McNasty996
Lobo is a toon character. Most of the feats mentioned are gag feats. It's like comparing superman to bugs bunny in the feat department. Just not doable.
Lobo is a humorous character, not a gag character. Its easy to pick him out from a gag or toon character since Lobo is still confined within the limits of plot. In return this lets us know he has well defined limits, to his own physicality.
Lobo has had enough serious appearances to determine a level for him. He ranges from a Top Tier to an Elite Top Tier brick with an incredible healing factor.
If the two were ever to fight in a comic, Hulk is the smarter bet imo. I think Lobo at best would stalemate the green idiot while I wouldn't be surprised if he beat Lobo into a stain then like thunder-clapped him away or something.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Lobo isn't Mxyzptlk.That being said, even if you do separate the "real" feats from the "joke" ones (which can be a dicey endeavor), it's pretty obvious he's intended to be a top tier being more than capable of holding his own with Hulk.
I never said Hulk would crush Lobo in feats or that he would be curb stomped in a fight. But as you said it gets very dicey and subjective separating a joke from an actual feat which is what makes using characters like Lobo, Mask, or Mr. Mxy difficult to use sometimes.
Mainstream DC makes no distinction to Lobo self titles. Given that mainstream DC often references events that occurred in Lobo titles to reinforce its mythos.
Case, and Point. Lobo in 52, referencing events that occurred in Jingle Hell/Spring Break Massacre.
My point is, if DC makes no distinction between serious Lobo, and Toon Lobo. Than you shouldn't either. To go about wouldn't just be flawed, but wrong all together since this is how he was introduced (Post Crisis) in the first place.
You need to broaden your views, and accept that silly things will happen if the comic is intended to have a humorous plot.
Assuming this is before Hulk separated from Banner.
Lobo vs Hulk would be fairly competitive. Thats unquestionable. Under normal circumstances, Lobo walks at Superman, Captain Marvel, Elite Green Lantern etc..Class. Its equivalent to Hulk, when he is fighting Gladiator, Thor, Quasar etc..
I emphasize under normal circumstances, as that is how he should be starting off without plot restrictions. We also know that the fight can quickly escalate, once anger/rage is factored in. Since both will benefit from huge stat boost. As its clearly shown respectively in Spring Break Massacre, and Hulk #632.
And even then, there is still isn't a clear answer. But I am with betting my chips on the virtual immortal that matches, and in some cases exceeds Hulk at his best.