Spider-man on both. Maybe Im had an edge before pete had training with shang chi...added to the fact that he gained an improved Spider-sense.
With everything else, I don't think ironfist can keep his strenght up breaking webbings continuously. A few seconds of being incapacitated is all it takes for spider-man to land a quick haymaker.
Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
They both need only one good hit, but Spider-Man is more durable, faster, has his spider-sense, his webs and is a hell of a lot stronger.Spider-Man all the way.
Danny's broken out of/through the webbing. And you're underrating his durability..
He's survived attacks and blunt force that would cripple most streets.. Or even Spidey, in some cases.
Originally posted by cdtm
Danny's broken out of/through the webbing. And you're underrating his durability..He's survived attacks and blunt force that would cripple most streets.. Or even Spidey, in some cases.
You don't understand. He said that Danny can break them but that the webbing will rob him of his limited energy and slow him down where Spidey can do his maximum spider. 😄
Spidey wins both easily due to being faster, having an unfair spider sense, being stronger, and having unfair webbing.
Note: Spidey also knows kung-fu, having even better spider sense, and much stronger webbing now.
Originally posted by Mindset
Danny isn't going to be using helicarrier busting if's.Spiderman can take him because his all out is more conducive to still staying in character, i.e. not bloodlusted.
He doesn't need to use a helicarrier busting fist, though.
Spidey's probably a bit faster.. Say, fast enough to hit Danny and avoid a counter, just like he did with Davos/Steel Serpent or Black Tarantula.
The problem, is one or two unanswered punches isn't going to beat him. Danny's durable enough to take it, and imo Spidey would tire himself out darting in and out for the odd punch, before Danny gets knocked out.
While Danny, all he has to do is land one good Iron Fist. Doesn't have to be a helicarrier buster, just the kinds he uses to beat the bad guys.
And Spidey's webbing has limited uses here.. Blinding Danny is useless, because he basically has Daredevil's radar sense. (In fact, in Brubakers Daredevil run, he was sensing Hand ninja sneaking down his block.)
Webbing him up probably won't work, as Danny's chi basically melts it..
I'll give Parker enough credit that he can take a win or two, but he'd have to work 10 times as hard as Danny, and make no mistakes.. (Since Danny can take his punches, while he can't really afford to take even a weakened Iron Fist..)
Originally posted by cdtm
He doesn't need to use a helicarrier busting fist, though.Spidey's probably a bit faster.. Say, fast enough to hit Danny and avoid a counter, just like he did with Davos/Steel Serpent or Black Tarantula.
The problem, is one or two unanswered punches isn't going to beat him. Danny's durable enough to take it, and imo Spidey would tire himself out darting in and out for the odd punch, before Danny gets knocked out.
While Danny, all he has to do is land one good Iron Fist. Doesn't have to be a helicarrier buster, just the kinds he uses to beat the bad guys.
And Spidey's webbing has limited uses here.. Blinding Danny is useless, because he basically has Daredevil's radar sense. (In fact, in Brubakers Daredevil run, he was sensing Hand ninja sneaking down his block.)
Webbing him up probably won't work, as Danny's chi basically melts it..
I'll give Parker enough credit that he can take a win or two, but he'd have to work 10 times as hard as Danny, and make no mistakes.. (Since Danny can take his punches, while he can't really afford to take even a weakened Iron Fist..)
It's only fair that if you use high end IF durability then we should use Spidey's as well. And you don't want to do a feat war with Spidey as he has endured some hellish sh!t in his career.
The problem IF has mostly is Spidey's SS. This alone makes the fight unfair as it warns and guides Spidey out of the way before right before the attack is even launched. In some cases, Spidey allowed a bullet to get within inches of him before beginning to move out of the way. In other instances we have Spidey dodging homed lasers and energy beams. This is how fast and unfair the Spidey sense is.
Danny tires faster the more he uses chi. The webbing will not only tire him out but slow him down to allow Spidey extra hits on him. Think about it, how long will it take IF to break out of webbing? At least a couple of seconds. Well if these guys are fighting at bullet speed then a couple of seconds is an eternity.
You are also forgetting that Spidey's webbing is a lot stronger now (it would take IF more effort) and he knows kung fu which not only amplifies his strikes several times more powerful but adds to his defense and already unfair reflexes.
Originally posted by cdtmSpiderman routinely takes class 100's punches.
He doesn't need to use a helicarrier busting fist, though.Spidey's probably a bit faster.. Say, fast enough to hit Danny and avoid a counter, just like he did with Davos/Steel Serpent or Black Tarantula.
The problem, is one or two unanswered punches isn't going to beat him. Danny's durable enough to take it, and imo Spidey would tire himself out darting in and out for the odd punch, before Danny gets knocked out.
While Danny, all he has to do is land one good Iron Fist. Doesn't have to be a helicarrier buster, just the kinds he uses to beat the bad guys.
And Spidey's webbing has limited uses here.. Blinding Danny is useless, because he basically has Daredevil's radar sense. (In fact, in Brubakers Daredevil run, he was sensing Hand ninja sneaking down his block.)
Webbing him up probably won't work, as Danny's chi basically melts it..
I'll give Parker enough credit that he can take a win or two, but he'd have to work 10 times as hard as Danny, and make no mistakes.. (Since Danny can take his punches, while he can't really afford to take even a weakened Iron Fist..)
Danny's senses while fighting aren't as good as Peter's or Matt's.
The webbing gives Spiderman enough of an edge to win imo, along with his other abilities, ofc.
Originally posted by h1a8Danny does not have a problem tiring anymore.
It's only fair that if you use high end IF durability then we should use Spidey's as well. And you don't want to do a feat war with Spidey as he has endured some hellish sh!t in his career.The problem IF has mostly is Spidey's SS. This alone makes the fight unfair as it warns and guides Spidey out of the way before right before the attack is even launched. In some cases, Spidey allowed a bullet to get within inches of him before beginning to move out of the way. In other instances we have Spidey dodging homed lasers and energy beams. This is how fast and unfair the Spidey sense is.
Danny tires faster the more he uses chi. The webbing will not only tire him out but slow him down to allow Spidey extra hits on him. Think about it, how long will it take IF to break out of webbing? At least a couple of seconds. Well if these guys are fighting at bullet speed then a couple of seconds is an eternity.
You are also forgetting that Spidey's webbing is a lot stronger now (it would take IF more effort) and he knows kung fu which not only amplifies his strikes several times more powerful but adds to his defense and already unfair reflexes.
Spiderman has fought non stop longer than Danny, but Danny had to fight for weeks (months?) on end with barely any rest.
Originally posted by Mindset
Spiderman routinely takes class 100's punches.
Via a combination of toughness and rolling with it (Thanks to his precog).
In some ways, fighting Danny is worse than fighting Hulk, because it cuts down on the advantages that let him breeze past attacks that would normally cripple him.
Originally posted by Mindset
Danny does not have a problem tiring anymore.Spiderman has fought non stop longer than Danny, but Danny had to fight for weeks (months?) on end with barely any rest.
That's right. He was fighting off wolves for god knows how long in the bitter cold.
And than he had to fight Steel Serpent, while he had his Iron Fist.
Originally posted by cdtm
He doesn't need to use a helicarrier busting fist, though.Spidey's probably a bit faster.. Say, fast enough to hit Danny and avoid a counter, just like he did with Davos/Steel Serpent or Black Tarantula.
The problem, is one or two unanswered punches isn't going to beat him. Danny's durable enough to take it, and imo Spidey would tire himself out darting in and out for the odd punch, before Danny gets knocked out.
While Danny, all he has to do is land one good Iron Fist. Doesn't have to be a helicarrier buster, just the kinds he uses to beat the bad guys.
And Spidey's webbing has limited uses here.. Blinding Danny is useless, because he basically has Daredevil's radar sense. (In fact, in Brubakers Daredevil run, he was sensing Hand ninja sneaking down his block.)
Webbing him up probably won't work, as Danny's chi basically melts it..
I'll give Parker enough credit that he can take a win or two, but he'd have to work 10 times as hard as Danny, and make no mistakes.. (Since Danny can take his punches, while he can't really afford to take even a weakened Iron Fist..)
His chi melts webbing?