Is metatron more powerful than Michael?

Started by CosmicSurfer3 pages

Is metatron more powerful than Michael?

Who is the most powerful archangel of all? Does anyone know the answer? Or is it conflicted? the Jews think it's Metatron. And christians and Catholics think it's Michael. Is there really a definate answer to this?

I imagine various religions would answer the question in different ways, hence, different religions

Melchizedek>Both g_serious

As for this question, Michael is a soldier while Metatron is a spokesman, one can bench more than the other.

I think Metatron would rank higher though in the grand scheme of things.

What do you mean by "more powerful"? Chain of command?
If God is Picard, Metatron is Riker. Michael is Worf. Metatron wins.

Originally posted by Mindship
What do you mean by "more powerful"? Chain of command?
If God is Picard, Metatron is Riker. Michael is Worf. Metatron wins.

doesn't chain of command equal power? I though Metatron is more like a judge than anything else.

Lol, hypothetical religious vs. battles. Stay classy, forum.

Bonus points for Metatron just having a cooler name, though. I'm shocked Transformers hasn't co-opted it to mess with religious people.

Originally posted by CosmicSurfer
doesn't chain of command equal power? I though Metatron is more like a judge than anything else.
I've read Heavenly Scribe and/or the official Voice of God.

Originally posted by Digi
Bonus points for Metatron just having a cooler name, though.
H'mmm...maybe not for humans (the kid would never find a key ring or mug with his name on it -- although lately, all kinds of names are being pulled out of hats). Also, "Metatron" means something like, "behind the throne" of God, whilst (yeah, this is the thread for using that word) "Michael" means, "who resembles God." I think Michael has a cooler meaning (even better than "Kal-El," which actually does resemble the Hebrew words, "voice of God"😉.
Originally posted by Digi
I'm shocked Transformers hasn't co-opted it to mess with religious people.
Seriously, I'm wondering if they were even aware of the name. "Mega" has been a trendy prefix for a while now, whilst ... 😎 ... "tron" is good for anything electronic.

Superman > Metatron > Michael??

Seems legit. Thanks for the info, Mind.

Originally posted by Digi
Superman > ...

spite

Originally posted by Digi
Lol, hypothetical religious vs. battles. Stay classy, forum.

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Originally posted by Zeal Ex Nihilo
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You forgot /sarcasm ...wouldn't want your scathing commentary to leak into your future posts.

I mean, come on, it's a religious vs. battle. It might as well be South Park's Jesus vs. Santa for all we'll be able to comment on it with any validity.

But I AM real!

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Re: Is metatron more powerful than Michael?

Originally posted by CosmicSurfer
Who is the most powerful archangel of all? Does anyone know the answer? Or is it conflicted? the Jews think it's Metatron. And christians and Catholics think it's Michael. Is there really a definate answer to this?

The Jews control the world, so I'd go with their pov.

Considering all I know about Metatron I learned from "Dogma," I gotta go with Michael. I don't think he's an archangel, that'd be Gabriel, but he's warrior angel? Now I'm stepping in stuff that I learned a great deal about by watching "Supernatural."

Analogy : Sauron, Sauron's Mouth, The Witch King.

Witch King's way more powerful, he's in the army. Mouth of Sauron just speaks for Sauron. I'm sure he could do more if it were up to him, but he's on Sauron's leash.

Best religion thread ever.

Originally posted by siriuswriter
Considering all I know about Metatron I learned from "Dogma," I gotta go with Michael. I don't think he's an archangel, that'd be Gabriel, but he's warrior angel? Now I'm stepping in stuff that I learned a great deal about by watching "Supernatural."

He is an Archangel. I don't know the exact number of them, but I know Michael, Gabriel, Raphael, and Uriel are among them.

Also I seem to recall seeing a heirarchy where Archangels weren't at the top of the chain of command, it went Seraphim, Cherubim, Archangels, and Angels.

The Demiurge is the most powerful non-god force in Abrahamic myth, though it's mainly Gnostic.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
He is an Archangel. I don't know the exact number of them, but I know Michael, Gabriel, Raphael, and Uriel are among them.

Also I seem to recall seeing a heirarchy where Archangels weren't at the top of the chain of command, it went Seraphim, Cherubim, Archangels, and Angels.

The official ranking from Aquinas et al. puts Archangels way down at the bottom.

The thing about Metatron is that he surprised Rabbi Akiva (who, in some Kabbalah circles, was considered more enlightened than Moses). Akiva had a vision, saw two beings seated among the heavenly hosts, and questioned that maybe there was not one, but two Great Divine Powers (this perhaps being the greatest blasphemy a Jew could utter).

Metatron set him straight. "Naw, mortal dude, I'm just writin' stuff down."

On the other hand, whilst Metatron gets a stylus, Michael gets a sword. starwars

People call on Michael for protection and Metatron for answers and communication then? Though I've known people that also say that Metatron is above Michael. I don't understand why because Michael is the warrior.

He seems to be the "In" guy now. Maybe it's the cool name. lol

Metatron is just sitting because his lower back problem.