Carnage Vs Ares

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
lol.

In all serousness. Being a god does not make you uber powerful. It a term nothing else. Gods are just superhuman races that ordinary people mistakenly worship to be gods as U.S agent put it.

Are you serious? These statements are about as crazy as insisting Wolverine can tank Hulk's punches, or beat Thor in a brawl.

Ares is a good fight for Hercules. He pwned Abomb, who matched Rulk. He's a highly skilled, class 100 monster.

Carnage is a Spiderman villain, that got trumped up a little in the Avengers comics, but his vast history puts him at Spidey level in effectiveness. Ares is on another level.

Originally posted by Newjak
The gods are supposed to be extremely powerful and advanced. I mean look at Zeus, Odin, Thor, Loki, Hercules. Ares is supposed to be their equal but look at him.

They not always super powerful. Some are, just like some mutants are really powerful.

Zues and Odin are vastly more powerful then the other gods even hercules and Thor arnt on there levels normally. Also loki to my knowledge is not even the same race as the other gods and drives most of his powers through magical means. And there is nothing that states Ares is there equal. Gods have never been suggested to all be on the same level.

Your saying how you wish things were not how they are.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
lol.

In all serousness. Being a god does not make you uber powerful. It a term nothing else. Gods are just superhuman races that ordinary people mistakenly worship to be gods as U.S agent put it.

Originally posted by cdtm
Are you serious? These statements are about as crazy as insisting Wolverine can tank Hulk's punches, or beat Thor in a brawl.

Seeing how Wolverine has foughten Hulk more times then any other person, that statements not crazy at all. It funny there a running pattern with you. You ignore and call PIS on everthing you dislike. Sorry son, but what comic fact and what you think are not the same thing.

Originally posted by cdtm

Ares is a good fight for Hercules. He pwned Abomb, who matched Rulk. He's a highly skilled, class 100 monster.

He also gotten beat down by herc, so whats your point? A-bomb? Who was not very impressive at all. He not that skilled either. Wolverine done the same dam thing but on worse levels and Carnage would beat him. So your abc logic is just not working. You also have yet to prove evidence.

Originally posted by cdtm

Carnage is a Spiderman villain, that got trumped up a little in the Avengers comics, but his vast history puts him at Spidey level in effectiveness. Ares is on another level.

No Ares is not on another level and Carnage is with out a doubt more powerful then spiderman. You need to stop making statements and start providing evidence.

Originally posted by cdtm
Sometimes, abc logic works.

If you want scans, I can provide scans, but this was discussed on KCM a lot of times.. Venom's outright knocked Carnage out at least twice, and most of their fights they're dead even.

You DO believe Cage is > Venom, at least, don't you? Or Spidey?

I not talking about carnage and venom stop focusing on the red herrings.

No i don't. i keep asking you for evidence that Luke is > Venom carnage. Because he not. And Also Spiderman could very well beat Cage as well. I think you have fing no idea what your talking about.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
They not always super powerful. Some are, just like some mutants are really powerful.

Zues and Odin are vastly more powerful then the other gods even hercules and Thor arnt on there levels normally. Also loki to my knowledge is not even the same race as the other gods and drives most of his powers through magical means. And there is nothing that states Ares is there equal. Gods have never been suggested to all be on the same level.

Your saying how you wish things were not how they are.

High end Ares has legit class 100 feats to be fair. Survivng an atomic explosion, countless missles, slicing a skyscraper in half with one blow, matching skaar in strength. Cutting sentry

He also has his low end feats though

Originally posted by Newjak
The point is it seems weird to have them be on such weird power levels especially when they are supposed to and have shown to possess divine powers.

So have other characters, whats your point? and what do you mena by divine?

Think you want them to be on a level there not. Term god is irrelevent. It just a term, it does not make you more powerful then someone else simply becuase your called a god.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
High end Ares has legit class 100 feats to be fair. Survivng an atomic explosion, countless missles, slicing a skyscraper in half with one blow, matching skaar in strength. Cutting sentry

He also has his low end feats though

Which are more numerous. He simply a typical brick. He not this world beater people pretend he is.

Originally posted by Starscream M
why do you think that?

Cage is stronger...but venom is faster, more versatile, etc.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
There really no evidence that cage is stronger then venom even.

Originally posted by Starscream M
I think cage is in the CL60-80 right? I would put venom in CL30-40

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
There not on that wierd of a powerlevel at all.

So have other characters, whats your point? and what do you mena by divine?

Think you want them to be on a level there not. Term god is irrelevent. It just a term, it does not make you more powerful then someone else simply becuase your called a god.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
And Also Spiderman could very well beat Cage as well. I think you have fing no idea what your talking about.

lol. Bullshit.

And I don't have to prove shit here. Not if you're seriously trying to argue Carnage has a snowballs chance in hell against someone that's in the heavyweight club, which Ares definitely is. Have you even read anything about Ares, at all?

Considering you're one of the posters here who argues things like Wolverine being capable of tanking punches from Hulk, I'm not sure your opinion on Carnage is the same as my opinion, but lets find out:

Serious question: Where do you place Carnage, Venom, and Spidey relative to each other, and relative to other characters. Are all three roughly on the same tier?

How would each fare against Hulk?

Against the Juggernaut.

Against Thor in a straight brawl?

Against Wolverine?

Against Iron Fist?

Originally posted by Newjak
As in they have the divine spark, that's how they get their powers.

Also not all the "gods" get there power from divine spark either.

Which ones dont?

Originally posted by cdtm
lol. Bullshit.

Thats not bullshit as all, and like always i notice you dodge and weave. Why not actaully you know prove the nonsense you always try and sell?

Originally posted by cdtm
And I don't have to prove shit here.

Originally posted by cdtm
Not if you're seriously trying to argue Carnage has a snowballs chance in hell against someone that's in the heavyweight club,

Yes I am seriously argueing that Carnage can take on Ares.

I am also waiitng on prove that Luke cage is >venom and carnage

Originally posted by cdtm
which Ares definitely is. Have you even read anything about Ares, at all?

Originally posted by cdtm
[B]Against Thor in a straight brawl?

All three would lose as would Ares, again what is your point?

Originally posted by cdtm
Against Wolverine?

Vs Spiderman it depends on land scape.

Carnage and Venom depends on how they fight him. If they fight smart they should not have much trouble winning. but if they fight like idiots Wolverine would beat them. Wolverine gives them fights but Carnage and Venom utilizing there powers would win for sure.

Originally posted by cdtm
Against Iron Fist?

same answer I gave for Wolverine

Originally posted by Mindset
Which ones dont?

ares.

Carnage makes him his puppet.