Carnage Vs Ares

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
I disagree. He is as powerful as he portrayed to be. He simply not portrayed more often then not as being that formidable when compared with other bricks.

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Originally posted by Newjak
I think the point is he's the freaking God of War, Son of Zeus, Brother of Hercules.

I think people just feel like he should be in the same league as his brother power wise 😛

...basically, I don't care how powerful no-name "gods" are. But if you're playing him up as a major character, putting him on Avengers teams, etc. and he's supposedly the God of War dating back through history, it's then a bit of a letdown when he can get chumped by smart street levelers with some prep. Especially with Thor and Hercules as templates for doing it right, Ares just seems like a joke.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
Carnage makes him his puppet.

seriously. ss anyone? and don't cry pis..... it's a fundamental part of carnage's powerset. and spidey only beats carnage via plot 99% of the time. using carnage's full powerset i still don't get how ares (who is pretty much just a low-level brick in general) wins this...... cl100 alone sure as hell isn't enough.

Originally posted by Digi
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...basically, I don't care how powerful no-name "gods" are. But if you're playing him up as a major character, putting him on Avengers teams, etc. and he's supposedly the God of War dating back through history, it's then a bit of a letdown when he can get chumped by smart street levelers with some prep. Especially with Thor and Hercules as templates for doing it right, Ares just seems like a joke.

During his Mini and came and saved Olympus from destruction. It just feels like he should be more than how he is normally portrayed, and it also seems like as soon as anyone starts to make that push he reverts back to his old self.

Carnage.

Originally posted by Newjak
Pretty much, especially when Tony first brought him on the team he was supposed to be a Thor + Wolverine if I remember correctly.

Also he did nothing impressive at all in his entire time on that team.

Originally posted by Newjak
During his Mini and came and saved Olympus from destruction. It just feels like he should be more than how he is normally portrayed, and it also seems like as soon as anyone starts to make that push he reverts back to his old self.

Gods in marvel is a title, not an indication of ones powerlevel.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
It was Thor lite i believe and it was not presumed that he was as good or effective as either Wolverine or Thor.

Also he did nothing impressive at all in his entire time on that team.

I think you two want him to be more then he is. He is what he shown to be, nothing more or less.

Gods in marvel is a title, not an indication of ones powerlevel.

He's a God of War, gifted with the divine spark. Yes he is portrayed one way and I would like to see him portrayed another.

Originally posted by Newjak

He's a God of War, gifted with the divine spark. Yes he is portrayed one way and I would like to see him portrayed another.

Ares simply isn't very impressive.

Originally posted by Starscream M
frankly, I don't give a rat's behind how you'd like to see him portrayed. 😐

Ares simply isn't very impressive.

I feel like Ares should be more and honestly I feel most people do considering the hype, and people he generally gets compared to.

Originally posted by Newjak
That's the problem he should be a lot more powerful then how he displayed.

Originally posted by Newjak
Look at his brother Hercules, Look at who he gets compared to,

Originally posted by Newjak
yet he is at best a mid level namor type brick if that.

Namor would beat Ares into the ground. he also given hercules hell if not out right beaten him before.

Originally posted by Newjak
He's a God of War, gifted with the divine spark. Yes he is portrayed one way and I would like to see him portrayed another.

Meanless title. Divine spark is more or less equivalent to the x-gene.

Also in mythology Ares is not some beast. In fact he kinda a pussy and a cry baby if memory serves me right.

Just want to throw out there that Cage and Carnage already fought and Cage couldn't even budge Carnage and he had help from other Avengers. This happened during the breakout when Sentry was first introduced.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan

in mythology Ares has runaway in battle when he realizes he cannot win and is going to be defeated and killed.

Originally posted by Newjak
Ok I could care less that you don't care.

I feel like Ares should be more and honestly I feel most people do considering the hype, and people he generally gets compared to.

Do u think Ares beats Carnage and if so why using comic feats and history from both characters.

Originally posted by carver9
Just want to throw out there that Cage and Carnage already fought and Cage couldn't even budge Carnage and he had help from other Avengers. This happened during the breakout when Sentry was first introduced.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
And since Carnage returned he has displayed completely new powers and feats. Not upgraded (except bionic legs for his missing lower body) but definately written up.

I wouldnt transfer that to Ares

Originally posted by Parmaniac
And since Carnage returned he has displayed completely new powers and feats. Not upgraded (except bionic legs for his missing lower body) but definately written up.

Pretty much. Carnage was working the Avengers and if Sentry didn't show up, he probably would have won (including Luke who was struggling to even budge let alone push Carnage back). Luke is a beast but I wouldn't put him above Carnage.

Carnage is not match for Ares. Ares do have low showing but don't forget he used to be a villians but he also have some high showing The Guy be X-man for heaven sake a fight that was written in the stars. X-man try to cheat by hiding in his time bubble but Ares walk right through it. plus remember what both Athena and thor stated the guys keep their power in checked when they walked the earth.
When Ares was a villian he demostrated lot of different powers than when he joined the Avengers.
He could teleport easily
Vast energy projection from his hands and sometime channel through his axe
invisible to mortal eyes
summoning weapons from other dimensions
and possessing other people body he even once possessed a being as powerful as masterson thor

Carnage turns him into a puppet, and could give him hell without said power

I can see Carnage taking over Ares. Those symbiotes have taken over quite a number of powered beings. Otherwise, Ares decapitates him or cleaves him down the middle with his axe after fights with varying degrees of brutality.

Split 5/10.

Originally posted by hunbu04
Carnage is not match for Ares. Ares do have low showing but don't forget he used to be a villians but he also have some high showing The Guy be X-man for heaven sake a fight that was written in the stars. X-man try to cheat by hiding in his time bubble but Ares walk right through it. plus remember what both Athena and thor stated the guys keep their power in checked when they walked the earth.
When Ares was a villian he demostrated lot of different powers than when he joined the Avengers.
He could teleport easily
Vast energy projection from his hands and sometime channel through his axe
invisible to mortal eyes
summoning weapons from other dimensions
and possessing other people body he even once possessed a being as powerful as masterson thor

Thor does drastically scale back his power for the sake of the planet but, I just dont see it happening with Ares .

Thor vs Walker
http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd202/Genis101/Genis/Pre-Insane/CM%20v3/17-vsWalker3.jpg
http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd202/Genis101/Genis/Pre-Insane/CM%20v3/17-vsWalker4.jpg

I think Ares should be vastly more powerful than he is depicted. He could so be an awesome war god a mix between Wolverine and Thor if done right.