Originally posted by carver9Well Carver I'm not sure what to say at this point...I've already addressed you're points and you won't accept mine no matter how concrete or much common sense is involved. I mean I guess you can just deny that the serpent made WWH stronger than usual but...that doesn't make it true. So I don't think I'll waste my time anymore. I mean almost everything in this post is repeated and has been debunked...but you just keep on using the same old non functioning logic. so we are done for now. Later Carver.
What's up buddy? Good to see ya online. Now where do I start?No, I didnt know we was excluding current Hulk. You didn't say that while making the thread. You said Hulk and WBH is Hulk. You then state we can use any ft...so that's what I did. Didn't know this was just WWH.
I agree, Hulk+ Serpent does mean upgrade...towards his versatility. I never argued Nul isn't more versatile than WWH.
If Reed can't read WWH power level and the Vampire nation can't read WWH power level, how would they know Nul is more powerful than WWH?
He's not a powered up WWH...he is a powered up Hulk. When Hulk grabbed that hammer, he was in a calm state. Nothing suggest or was even stated that once Hulk grabbed that hammer, he immediately went to his WWH levels...that insane. WWH was strength personified. The only way to surpass that strength is by going World Breaker and Nul never showed the ability to go world Breaker.
It wasn't ridiculous...its the truth. If Earth smartest beings can't get a reading on WWH powerlevel, no mere Vampires should be able to do it either unless again, Nul was weaker than WWH.
Originally posted by carver9Doesn't matter and there's no proof to that. The writer made it clear this amped Hulk is more powerful so it doesn't count.
Doesn't make sense Quan. Nul is a weaker version of WWH.
Originally posted by StoicThe term can refer to the head of a pantheon as well.
Was the writer of Chaos War a battle boarder, because didn't Galactus call Zeus a mere Sky Father in that run?
Originally posted by StoicNo, youre telling what you think they are capable of, not what they showed in aiding Onslaught one bit in terms of what i asked.
You must be thick. I gave you your answer, all you have to do is check out what Franklin, and Nate are capable of. I never attempted to give an excuse, just point you in the right direction.
Due to your lack of proof i take it Nate and Franklin added NOTHING in terms of Strength n durability, so Thor n co rocking Onslaught is just as good as what Hulk did.
Originally posted by Nihilist
No, youre telling what you think they are capable of, not what they showed in aiding Onslaught one bit in terms of what i asked.Due to your lack of proof i take it Nate and Franklin added NOTHING in terms of Strength n durability, so Thor n co rocking Onslaught is just as good as what Hulk did.
That wasn't even my argument to begin with. I repeat, all you have to do is check out what Nate and Franklin are capable of, and you will get the answer to your question. this is not me being argumentative, I was simply pointing out the obvious.
Now if the results of that answer are above what you expected them to be, what do you want me to do about it? How do you know that Onslaught did not utilize Nate, and Franklin's power set anyways? Did it specifically ever state that Onslaught didn't?
Originally posted by quanchi112
Doesn't matter and there's no proof to that. The writer made it clear this amped Hulk is more powerful so it doesn't count.The term can refer to the head of a pantheon as well.
Ah I see your point, and you are correct in your assumption. Sky Father is a title, and not really a level of power. After all Miek could be the Sky Father of the ants, and yet not have the power to challenge Ares yet alone his Father. Good call. However I doubt that was what Galactus meant.
Originally posted by NihilistI are you trying to tell me someone who one shot juggernaut and made him flew almost 3 states away.....has no strength???? 🤨
No, youre telling what you think they are capable of, not what they showed in aiding Onslaught one bit in terms of what i asked.Due to your lack of proof i take it Nate and Franklin added NOTHING in terms of Strength n durability, so Thor n co rocking Onslaught is just as good as what Hulk did.
Originally posted by quanchi112
There are no skyfather level characters it's a category fans created in order to classify their characters on battleboards.Hyperbole bro. He didn't take on many heavy hitters at all. Onslaught was pretty weak as far as villains go.
So any kind of statements are hyperbole... It wasn't stated once it was stated throughout the whole arc.
A weak villain doesn't one shot Juggernaut with brute force, create a sun from nothing, create a citadel from nothing, take out the Avengers including Thor, Fantastic Four and the X-Men with a wave of their hand or essentially have literally every available hero and even villain on Earth pool together to try stop them. Are you sure you even read the Onslaught saga?
Originally posted by The SorrowI cannot believe him honestly...when i first came here i remember being told on how Quanchi will just cover his ears when it comes to Thanos...and now he has proven it true to me....
Erm okay?So any kind of statements are hyperbole... It wasn't stated once it was stated throughout the whole arc.
A weak villain doesn't one shot Juggernaut with brute force, create a sun from nothing, create a citadel from nothing, take out the Avengers including Thor, Fantastic Four and the X-Men with a wave of their hand or essentially have literally every available hero and even villain on Earth pool together to try stop them. Are you sure you even read the Onslaught saga?
Originally posted by The SorrowYes, it's called hyperbolel to increase the seriousness of the situation.
Erm okay?So any kind of statements are hyperbole... It wasn't stated once it was stated throughout the whole arc.
A weak villain doesn't one shot Juggernaut with brute force, create a sun from nothing, create a citadel from nothing, take out the Avengers including Thor, Fantastic Four and the X-Men with a wave of their hand or essentially have literally every available hero and even villain on Earth pool together to try stop them. Are you sure you even read the Onslaught saga?
Weak in terms of an event villain. Someone like the Serpent is far more powerful. Someone like Thanos in Thanos imperative far more powerful. These guys just operate on a much higher field than earth and xmen characters. Thor was also depowered at the time.
Thanos overpowers the Hulk. Again.
Originally posted by StoicGo ahead and be a doubting Thomas. I find your lack of faith in me disturbing.
Ah I see your point, and you are correct in your assumption. Sky Father is a title, and not really a level of power. After all Miek could be the Sky Father of the ants, and yet not have the power to challenge Ares yet alone his Father. Good call. However I doubt that was what Galactus meant.
Originally posted by TheHulk
I are you trying to tell me someone who one shot juggernaut and made him flew almost 3 states away.....has no strength???? 🤨
I was under the assumption that had been explained as either Telekinesis or Magnetic Force, not physical force.
Edit: And he asked what Franklin and Nate added to Onslaught in that regard. The Juggernaut incident occurred before they were absorbed, didn't it?
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
This is what we know... based on hyperbole and unlimited potential Hulk is stronger... based on the only time they had an encounter which used strength.. Thanos easily overpowered and mocked Hulk's strength. Which is more important?
